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Sct x4?

Has anyone used this with our cars? I was on the SCT website, plugged in "1996 Ford Thunderbird 4.6" into the vehicle select, and its saying that the X4 will work. I have seen the X3's being used, and I have read only certain ones of those work, I think 9015 was the model for the X3 that works.

Should I try this? Would there any benefit? (Im not too familiar with either, but I havent found nearly as much info on the x3 as the x4).

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Any Ford X2, X3 or X4 will be fine. None of them will have tunes that will "just work" with our cars, so regardless which flavor you end up with you'll need to have someone write you a program.

The newer models don't really give us any new functionality the X2s don't already provide, so X2 or X3 is probably the best bet (depending how much you can get either for). The only reason to go newer is simply because they're supported longer from a software interfacing standpoint (e.g. the software that talks to it from PC) and the hardware is newer and (theoretically) more reliable than 10+ year old stuff. But in the end... it's your money.

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I've had two X2s that croaked on me, first one glitched saying something like "-100 changes left" in the status screen and not allowing return to stock status, and the used one I got to replace it randomly decided to not communicate with the PC, as in plugging it in the USB, nothing at all happened. Before that I had a bear of a time trying to get the damn drivers to work on Windows 7 PCs and up, and support from SCT for them is nonexistent now. So I suggest the X3 or X4, whichever you find that's both unlocked and fits your budget.

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the used one I got to replace it randomly decided to not communicate with the PC, as in plugging it in the USB, nothing at all happened.
Ya know... mine does that. Something wrong with the power drivers (ICs) on the XCal somewhere that feed the thing when it's hooked up to a USB port. When I plug it in to the OBD-II port it works fine though, so I have to have the XCal plugged into the car AND my laptop at the same time to be able to flash new tunes to it. Not a major inconvenience for me though since most of the time I'm going right out to the car to flash the PCM anyway.

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Mine works through the car as well, but I wasn't able to try that, damn I was between laptops when I needed to flash it and just ended up buying a lightly used X3.

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Mine works through the car as well, but I wasn't able to try that, damn I was between laptops when I needed to flash it and just ended up buying a lightly used X3.
Where can I download a tune for our cars? Id like to have the 2v be a little more fun before I yank it out.

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You need to contact a tuner to have one made

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You need to contact a tuner to have one made
Ok. I was thinking maybe there was someone on here who people went to

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Ya know... mine does that. Something wrong with the power drivers (ICs) on the XCal somewhere that feed the thing when it's hooked up to a USB port. When I plug it in to the OBD-II port it works fine though, so I have to have the XCal plugged into the car AND my laptop at the same time to be able to flash new tunes to it. Not a major inconvenience for me though since most of the time I'm going right out to the car to flash the PCM anyway.
Thread resurrection. Just got a chance to try this today, and IT WORKED! Probably will be selling my still unlocked X3, because the janky shit is what I keep

I used a data link connector I cut off an old dash harness and ran the power and ground wires to a 12V power supply, so I can still make tune changes away from the car.

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I'm impressed you got power at the DLC on your car when you plugged it in. I wasn't aware it was nearly that completely reassembled!

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Hey I haven't taken the dash out of the car for this project...yet

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Thread resurrection. Just got a chance to try this today, and IT WORKED! Probably will be selling my still unlocked X3, because the janky shit is what I keep

Let me know if you want to sell it. You guys had me nervous about my X2 crapping out on me but I could still use 1 for my Mountaineer when I start making changes to it.

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SCT is pretty ancient software these days, any advanced tuner uses realtime tuning with the moates quarterhorse, your not locked down to the tune on the handheld at the tuners mercy and you have full access to the tune to do anything you want, its far superior than using those old outdated handhelds

not to mention SCT is very limited on support for the CDAN4 strategy (96-97 birds ecu strategy)

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If I tuned professionally I'd agree, but I have PRP and have the tuner(s). No point reinvesting(both monetary and mentally) from my perspective.
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SCT is pretty ancient software these days, any advanced tuner uses realtime tuning with the moates quarterhorse, your not locked down to the tune on the handheld at the tuners mercy and you have full access to the tune to do anything you want, its far superior than using those old outdated handhelds

not to mention SCT is very limited on support for the CDAN4 strategy (96-97 birds ecu strategy)
I was explained the benefits of the Quarterhorse recently, and there will be one added to my purchase list as I progress.

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