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Tire Reviews

OK, I'm going to try this out. I get asked all the time what tires people should get, so I decided to make a Tire Review Post. I need submissions in this format to make it easy to consolidate here on the forum.

Size
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Approximate Price Paid
Mileage so far on the tires
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10
Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not.

This should help us along pretty well, if we can make it workable. If multiple reviews on the same tire model are listed, I'll consolidate and average the numbers.

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225/60/15
Goodyear Eagle RSA
$400
30,000 miles
Dry Traction: 5
Wet Traction: 2
Snow Traction: 1
Comments: Absolutely the worst tires I've ever owned. Dry Traction is mediocre, absolutely no wet traction. I had to take off in 2nd gear on any wet road, and still got a bunch of spin. I prayed for the day these were worn out, so I could replace them. I would not recommend these tires to anyone.

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225/60/16

Yokohama AVS db S2

Miles: ca. 30k so far.

Price 96 each from Tirerack.com

Dry traction: 9/10
Wet: 8/10
Snow: 5/10(based on only one experience)
overall handling: 8/10

comments: great tire overall; find a place with a Hunter GSP9700 Roadforce balancer to balance (tricky)
Would recommend them anytime in non-high-snow areas. VERY quiet.
Tons better than the overpriced crappy Michelin symmetry that I replaced.
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225/60/15
Dunlop SP Sport A2s
$58 each (tirerack.com)
10,000
Dry Traction: 8
Wet Traction: 7
Snow Traction: NA
Nice tires with good traction, but the treadwear rating (400) is misleading. Within 10,000 miles, the tires looked like they had lost half of their tread. I recently sold them with the car.

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General 2000s
$53 each
30,000
Dry Traction: 8
Wet Traction: 7
Snow Traction: 8
Fantastic tires. Traction was great in all weather conditions, and the tread never seemed to wear.

220/65/15
Yokohama Avid
$65 each
30,000
Dry Traction: 5
Wet Traction: 2
Snow Traction: 1
Good tires with very good treadwear, but atrocious traction in any element.


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235/60/16
Kuhmo KH11
About $240 for a set of 4
10k Miles
Dry- 9
Wet- 8
Snow- don't try it, they are summer tires. I don't know.

Great tire, dirt cheap, treadwear is below average, but they are so cheap, I would buy another set. Pretty quiet tracking.
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$170/$128 each (tirerack.com)
1,000
Dry Traction: 9 (When temps are above 70F)
Wet Traction: ??? (Never drive the car in the rain)
Snow Traction: NA (yeah right)

Great tire for your recreational T-Bird. Excellent treadwear so far. Not a good tire for colder climates. The price has gone up since I bought these however.
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255/45/17 Kumho Ecsta 711

$81 each from tirerack.

Dry Traction-7
Wet-6
Snow-(havent used them in snow, even tire rack doesnt have a snow rating)

approximately 6K miles put on them, good for warm,dry traction, for stock t-bird. When colder i can break loose them and i have a factory t-lok axle with 3.27. Virtually no wear on these. look excellent.


215/70/15 BF Goodrich Radial T/A's

$69 each from tirerack

Dry Traction-8
Wet-5
Snow-5

i have put 15K on these tires and have gone through about 1/2 tread. Very sticky tires for a stock tire size, but also very soft. The white letters are a plus, i think they look very good with the stock 96/7 salad shooter wheels.

215/70/15 Cooper Weathermasters (Wintermaster snow tires)

$49 each wholesale through work

Dry-7
wet-5
Snow-8

i have only had these for about 1,000 miles on my 1990 LX v-6 beater bird. These tires have gotten that car through anything the michigan snow can throw at them, with an open 7.5 inch diff. no problems with 5-6 inches of snow and 2 all season tires in the trunk for weight.
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245/45/17 Kumho Ecsta 712

$94 each from tirerack.

Dry Traction-8
Wet-7
Snow-NA

On my second set. I got 25,000 from the first ones, although the dry traction dropped off significantly after about 18,000 miles. I autocrossed on them a lot, so I had a good feel for the traction over the life of the tire. They definitely perform better after warming up. When the first set wore out, I was going to try the Kumho MX, or the BFG KDW, but since these are less than $100 each, I couldn't justify the more expensive tires.
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Nordic Wintertrac (front)
Dry 7/10
Wet 7/10
Snow/Ice 10/10

Cant remember exactly but it was about 90-100 each for two. Nothin special on pavementbut really shine in the winter, I can put the car sideways and recover no problem on ice/snow. I'd recommend these to anyone who lives with snow.

225/70/15
Firestone Wilderness AT
Dry 7/10
Wet 7/10
Snow/Ice 5/10

I know they're truck tires, but I kinda like to have them since my Cat goes everywhere. Very good on pavement and mud. In the snow they spin easily and on ice it takes a gentle touch to get going without spinning and sliding the back end out. The Nordics up front really help with having these on the back.

Very good combination on the highways in the winter. Got home after almost a foot of snow fell on December 30. No problems stopping even quickley on slick roads. Ive had the Nordics since Aug. And no noticeable treadware, the Firestones are older and are starting to wear down, (my fault though spinning on pavement )

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Summer tires:
215/60-15
Cooper Cobra Radial GT, R/W letter
$82.00 each
about 16,000 miles so far
Dry - 8
Wet - 7
Snow - n/a
My summer tires. Used two seasons so far. Nice profile. Quite tire. Nice cornering tire dry and wet. Spins a little thow on take off. Still have about half tread life after two seasons. I've been pleased so far. I recommend !!

Winter tires:
Rear,
215/70-15
Cooper Weathermaster II's (Studded)
$69.00 each + $15.00 to stud.
Front,
205/65-15
Cooper Weathermaster I's
$59.00 each
Dry - 7 both
Wet -6 both
Snow - 10+ !! both
Excellent traction in snow! good grip on ice. Good stopping power. But do give up some handling. Haven't gotten stuck yet! in fact, have pulled a few people out!!
Def. Recommend!! Have tried studdless tires, never again. They can't compare to a studded tire.
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225/60R16
Goodyear Eagle Nascar
~$400
22,000-and no tread left
dry 8/10
wet 7/10
snow 7/10
these tires look very nice (raised white letters), but they have a lower speed rating then stock and were designed for a smaller vehicel then ours. these tires-97S, stock-97T, thus resulting in poor milage.

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245/50/WR17
Dunlop SP Sport 5000
Dry 8.5
Wet 8
snow 6.8
Paid $141
About 6000 miles
These are very good traction tires in wet and dry conditions.
a very good handing tire at high speeds
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Mastercraft Sensys
$80 per tire
10000 miles so far
Dry Traction 8
Wet Traction 8
Snow Traction 7
A very good all around tire. good traction all the way around, holds the road very well in most conditions. Would've been much better if the shop had known what they were doing the first time. I highly recommend them.

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Size 215/70R15
Brand and Model Goodyear Assurance w/ Tripletread tech
Approximate Price Paid $100 installed
Mileage so far on the tires approx 10,000 miles
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10 9
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10 10
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10 6 (10 being studded snow tires)
Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not. I bought these in May and have taken them to the dragstrip... not too bad. I have driven them on rain, dry, mud, dirt, ice and slush... they do not perform well on PACKED snow and ice, but great on all other surfaces.

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Size - 225/60/16
Brand and Model - BfGoodrich Tractions T/A - H speed rated
Approximate Price Paid - 85ea
Mileage so far on the tires - 10,000
Dry Traction- 8.5
Wet Traction - 6
Snow Traction - N/A

So far these have been awesome tires, great traction overall. I can take corners much faster without any slippage. They feel like they are hugging the road when driving on the highway. One complaint is that they get a flat spot when car sits for couple of days, it goes away after driving the car for a few miles. I would definately buy these tires again and would recommend them to everyone.

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Size: P225/60/R16
Brand and Model: GoodYear Aquatred 3
Price: (Cant give exact price, bought used, still new, paid $100 for two with 93 SCwheels)
Mileage so far on tires: 1500
Dry Traction: 7
Wet Traction: 8
Snow Traction: 6

I have noticed that they have quite a soft sidewall, which plauges almost all Goodyears. In the dry its pretty good, I have never broke traction or had wheel spin (on dry pavement) which I purposely didnt do, although the soft sidewalls discourage cornering speeds. Wet traction wasnt as good as i expected. I accidently spun the tires on a wet road under light accelaration. I guess there actually needs to be water on the road for these tires to take full effect. On the snow they are actually somewhat good. I didnt get stuck once in 1" deep snow, (going ~35 mph) nor spin out in .25" thick ice








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Size: 215/60/HR15
Brand and Model: Hercules H3000 Directional "H" Speed Rated Radial (Manufactured by Cooper)
Approximate Price Paid: Actual Price Paid Is $49.00/tire Mounted And Balanced/w Road Hazard Warranty
Mileage so far on the tires: About 30,000, Give Or Take A few 1,000's
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10: 9.5 (very grippy tire)
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10: 8 (way better than previous tires, pep boy's futura , blecch!)
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10: Unknown, (no snow here since i bought them) Ice Traction Is About A 6.5,
Treadwear: 9, Down To About 3/8th's Tread, Not Bad For A 50,000 Mile Tire
Gripes: One Tire Was Defective, (Lumpy Center Tread) Had To Drive Back 70 Miles To Get It Replaced Under Warranty,
Bottom Line: Very Impressive Tire For The $$$'s Directional Tread Looks Great, Very Quiet On The Road, Very Responsive To Cornering And Changing Road Conditions, Definately Recommend!...........

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118$ tire @ tire rack
30,000+ on the fronts, alot less on the rear (driver input )
Dry Traction 8
Wet Traction 8
Snow Traction 5 (I drove a whole winter with these, about as good as lowpro All-season tire can get)
Highly recommended, GREAT tire for the price and definately worth 20$ each more than the Kumho 712's I had. They also let you know when you are on the edge of loosing grip on corners.

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Dry Traction on a scale of 8
Wet Traction on a scale of 6
Snow Traction on a scale of 0 (tryed once, NEVER AGAIN)
I don't recommend them, if you can't pony up 100$ more to get better tires then get them I suppose. Sidewalls were pretty soft and the tires gave NO warning of when they where about to loose grip on corners.

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Size 215/70R15
Brand and Model Goodyear Assurance w/ Tripletread tech
Approximate Price Paid $100 installed
Mileage so far on the tires approx 10,000 miles
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10 9
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10 10
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10 6 (10 being studded snow tires)
Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not. I bought these in May and have taken them to the dragstrip... not too bad. I have driven them on rain, dry, mud, dirt, ice and slush... they do not perform well on PACKED snow and ice, but great on all other surfaces.
i replaced my goodyear eagle nascar's with these, but in the 225/60R16 size. so far so good, i think they perform better in the snow then stated above, but i live in slightly warmer climate(philly), they have a stiff sidewall which helps with traction, but the car bounces around more due to this

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215/70/15
El Dorado Vision GTS
Dry Traction 7
Wet Traction 6
Snow Traction 5
$50/ea
~25,000 miles

This seems to be a good tire for those on a budget. They've got raised whit letters and look good on these cars. Handling is pretty good also.

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Size: 225/60/16
Brand and Model: Toyo Spectrum
Approximate Price Paid: were on the car when i bought it 2-1/2 years ago (they were new)
Mileage so far on the tires: 47,000 mi
Dry Traction: 6
Wet Traction: 3
Snow Traction: i live in South Texas...lol

decent tires if you're not into drag racing......dont hook for crap......but are good if you do regular city driving and highway driving....treadwear of 580 is real and these tires still have about 10,000 more to go before absolutely needing to be replaced .....also, they're are quite easy to spin out on wet pavement, so gotta feather the throttle when taking off, and when taking a corner or else the back will start to swing out......only time i would recommend these is only if you live in a warmer climate like me that sees little rain and zero snow (and drag strips for that matter!) , and desire a long-lasting reliable tire day in, day out

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215/70/15 BFGoodrich Radial T/A
$$$ - 78 ea.
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Dry traction, 6
Wet traction,5
snow traction, 8

decent tires for the money, i like them cause they have white letters as far as ohio snow goes they excel at dealing with inclement weather, descent for summer tires, but i was happier with them in the winter rather than the summer, thinking about buying BFG traction TAs for my summer tires on my new rims though!
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Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3
$150 fronts/$170 rears
20,000 miles
Dry Traction - 9
Wet Traction - 11 (Yeah, I know the limit was 10)
Snow Traction - -1 (the car wouldn't even back out of the garage, was just trying to move it around a bit)

I loved these tires. They had great grip and a good feel. I did run the pressure in them a little on the high side all the time though. They didn't make much noise ever, not even when spinning. I wore the back ones out and the front ones had a hard life of auto x'ing and the inside and outside corners were pretty worn although 85% of the tread across the middle still had a lot of life in it. They rode really smooth going down the road too. I'm not joking when I say that these had more grip in the rain than the BFG Radial T/A's that I had on the car before them had in the dry.

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245/45/17 front and 255/45/18 rear
Falken GR Beta FK-451
$106 fronts/$160 rears (www.discounttiredirect.com, cheapest shipping I found on them too)
1000 miles including two auto x's
Dry Traction - 8
Wet Traction - 9
Snow Traction - N/A

These are more suseptible to vibration than the Goodyears I had were (see other review above this). Road imperfections seem to come through the car more even running these at a lower pressure than I had run the Goodyears at. Auto crossing them at the same pressure at the Goodyears I'd say the dry traction is fairly equivalent. My best 60' ever with my car was on the Goodyears and I haven't been to a track yet with these to see how they compare in that regard. So far as far as dry traction goes I wouldn't say they are significantly better or worse than the Goodyears. These have very good wet traction also. I could give it more gas off the line with the Goodyears but you can still take off from a stop pretty hard with these in the rain although a WOT 300HP+ level j-mod shift in the rain is real scary and it really wasn't with the Goodyears. I got one run in at the auto x last Sunday in the rain and it dryed out after that. The wet run really wasn't as slow as I would have expected it to be compared to the pretty much dry run that came after it although on subsequent runs I started using 1st gear more which dropped the times a lot. Based on some reading in the street touring sections on sccaforums.com the last 4/32nds of tread are a stickier compound than the rest of the tire, so I may update this with how the end of the tire feels when I get there.

These are great tires, especially considering the price.

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just under $400, mounted and balanced

20,000 miles so far

Dry Traction: 8
Wet Traction: 7
Snow Traction: 7

For the price, these are a pretty decent tire. They can be a little scary in the rain, but as long as you stay out of the throttle, it's not too bad at all. I drive them pretty hard, and I should be able to get 30,000 miles out of them. I'll probably buy another set when they do wear out.

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post #26 of 120 (permalink) Old 05-29-2005, 09:20 AM
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firestone sz50 ep
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paid 105.00 each tirerack
wet traction 8
dry traction 9.5
snow traction 1
wear 7 only 25000 miles out of them.
noise 8
ride 8

these are great tires but not available in the size 235 60 16 that I want they do wear quickly but that should be expected from a high performance tire. They are totaly worthless in snow.
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Size: 215/50 R17 91V
Brand and Model: OHTSU/ZEXUS Xi326
Approximate Price Paid: $120 EACH Cheapest for 17" Rims at Les Schwab
Mileage so far on the tires: ~2K
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10: 9
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10: 8.5
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10: ARE YOU KIDDING?

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Handling with this wheelsize/tire setup is incredible. It fells like a much lighter car when zigging.
Did a 90 degree turn at around 45-50MPH on dry asphalt two seperate times. I mean, I pulled the steeringwheel HARD, expecting to spin-out, instead I was in over-steer--(NSB I think that's how to explain that the car was turned more than was required for the corner without losing rear-wheel traction), muttering the words "holy s**t".
They haven't failed me in the rain yet either, I live around Portland OR.
For being only 7" wide, these are really sticky tires.
I would not ever drive this car in snow, period.
Highway noise is a hair below avearage, and they are no louder at 110MPH than at 70MPH.
Highway traction is excellent wet OR dry.
These tires are softer than average, and Les Schwing does not warrant mileage for them,
so I am guessing the life of them to be on the short side.
They are definitely NOT for burnouts at the price I paid, I'll get stock wheels and $50 tires for that debauchery!

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Size: 245/60/R15
Brand and Model: Yokahoma Avant S/T
Approximate Price Paid: $400 Mounted & Balanced
Mileage so far on the tires: 20 Miles
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10: 9/10
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10: TBD
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10: N/A
Additional Comments: I love these tires, they give the best look I've gotten on any tires and they were pretty cheap, I'd definitely recommend them to anyone.

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Size: 255/50/16
Brand and Model: Falken Ziex 512
Approximate Price Paid: $69 each from www.hptire.com (+shipping)
Mileage so far on the tires: 30
Dry Traction: 8 (subject to change)
Wet Traction: TBD
Snow Traction: i live in South Texas...lol

just got these tires balanced (on a Hunter 9700 which is supposed to be the best balancing machine out there) and mounted.......so far, from what i can tell is that the sidewalls are much softer than the Toyo 225/60/16 Spectrums i had before.......although the Toyo's reacted quicker to sudden changes in steering direction, if turned too sharp while at speed, they started squealing.....these Falkens do seem to hold the road much better but the flex makes it feel like there is a late reaction on the tire's part to change the direction the car is heading in.....it's really not that bad at all...but the toyos felt much more responsive when initiating the turn.......I will update this as I get a better feel for them

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roughly 8.5" treadwidth


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stock size on stock alloy rims
yokahama avid t4
61$ each
i havea about 100 miles one them,little to no tread wear
dry 8
wet 6
snow N/A i live in florida
the tires are pretty good, i need to get a set of them on the front too, i need a good bite, the tires i have on the front are goodyear integrity tires. my mom has those on her van, so u can assume the quality of those, they suck lol...

just my 2 Cents

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