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Got a quote back from the manufacturer. They said bulbs are $18, but I am still trying to get a picture from them. A replacement projector would run $58 without a ballast.

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it would really suck balls if they were the ONLY ones to supply those particular lights since they deffinately look proprietary. hope they don't go out of business any time soon. or ever lol. but say you HAD to use another bulb. how much bigger is the base of a typical HID bulb compared to these chinese knock-off's?

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Okay. Got their reply on the bulbs. They say it is 'their H1 bulb.'

If I order some, would anyone else here want me to order for them too?

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Okay. Got their reply on the bulbs. They say it is 'their H1 bulb.'

If I order some, would anyone else here want me to order for them too?
"their" H1? as in having nothing to do with the standard halogen H1? or is it somehow an HID "retrofit" version of an H1 bulb like they do with 9007, 9006, etc. or did they not specify?

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"their" H1? as in having nothing to do with the standard halogen H1? or is it somehow an HID "retrofit" version of an H1 bulb like they do with 9007, 9006, etc. or did they not specify?
*sigh*.. That makes me wonder even more.. an H1 bulb.... I love my D2S bulbs, and I want to stick to those.. Let me, or scratch that, let us know when you get another reply.

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Korpse have you figured out how to adapt the D2S bulbs? or have you not installed the set up yet?

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I looked up H1s and most seem to have a small lip on the base. These do not. Although there is a lot of variance between styles.

I sent them a message back asking for a picture just to be on the safe side. They also apparently have another style of projector available. The ones we have are called "G1" but their other is called "G3":



I didn't bother asking about it because it looks like it would have a harder time fitting in our housings than the G1s.

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Arrighty, got a confirm on the bulbs, they're the right ones. If anyone wants me to order spares for them, let me know. I'll probably place the order by the end of the week.

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I suppose there are no other colour options eh? for 18$ i wouldnt mind a few sets, maybe a 4300 and a 10k to see the differences.

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They offered 4300, 6000, 8000 and 10000k, $18 a piece. The spare projectors come in white, blue, yellow, green and red, $58 without ballast, $80 with.

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you wont ship to canada will ya?

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I'll ship to Canada, just not you.

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Korpse have you figured out how to adapt the D2S bulbs? or have you not installed the set up yet?
i don't know that you'd be able to adapt a d2 style bulb to those. The base is MUCH larger.

btw, d2s is meant for projector stle headlights, d2r is meant for reflector style headlights..

Now if the ones I get actually use the d2H bulb, like is "promised", I'd be able to put a d2s bulb in there, but i'd have to get the d2s wire harness for it also.

i'm not holding my breath, but at least now we know we can get replacements!

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ah maybe so but it's expensive as all hell to live here
Not always true.. I moved to Napa from Milwaukee, WI. Aside from high housing prices, thats about the biggest issue.

Now some other parts of the bay.. yes, it does get a bit expensive! San Jose, and most of those other south bay areas are a bit out of control. For some reason I don't find it so bad up here in Napa. Been here for 2 and half years or so.

Other aspects of being in Ca even the prices out. I was basically given my 97 Tbird without a spec of rust anywhere, whereas a similar car in the rust belt would have had a higher price tag. Or it would have had chunks of it falling off. I'm in utter amazement every single time I work on a CA car and the crap just unscrews. Freaking axle ubolts and brake lines just come apart. AND they go back together! No torches or grinders needed!

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lol yea but if you lived on the coast you'd make a whole new relationship with the rust. i grew up in pacifica and EVERYTHING is rusty. i wouldn't give up living in california for anything, but the housing is expensive

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btw, d2s is meant for projector stle headlights, d2r is meant for reflector style headlights..
so i know we talked about the whole reflector thing earlier in this thread, but if i understand this right the "r" bulbs are for reflector housings? so what in the housing allows for the sharp cutoff?

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I believe there's some kind of paint/coating on part of the bulb that helps with that, but I'm not positive. I'm just going by pics of the bulbs I've seen.

Update with the manufacturer - I sent them a few more pics and they said the bulb style is actually their 9007 (the large, round rubber boot gives it away, apparently). They said they are out of stock however for the time being.

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FYI - I have these ****ty chinese HIDs on Tbird, previous owner fault. When I'll back home, first thing I'll do - try refresh and fix the second, original set I receive, and throw these all rebuild lamps with HIDs away.

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so i know we talked about the whole reflector thing earlier in this thread, but if i understand this right the "r" bulbs are for reflector housings? so what in the housing allows for the sharp cutoff?
r has nothign to do with it... its simply the bulb style and how it mounts into the housing using vehicle specific clips and such.

The housings which create sharp cutoffs without the use of projectors usually have a very FLAT top or are set up so that the light travels out and down. Look at a Tbird/Cougar lens for example. There is a HUGE amount of light that can escape through the top of the lens. Now look at say the new F150 lights, they have a very round reflector, but the headlight is setup so that the light does not disperse but travel in a straight fashion giving that "cutoff" line since there is no light escaping through the top of the lens.

Most new vehicles are coming with setups like these. Take a look at any new vehicle without projectors and you will see what i mean.

As for the projector. There is a shutter inside which moves up and down that allows light to escape accordingly. When the shutter is down (low beam) you get a clean cutoff line, when the shutter is up more light is allowed to escape.

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FYI - I have these ****ty chinese HIDs on Tbird, previous owner fault. When I'll back home, first thing I'll do - try refresh and fix the second, original set I receive, and throw these all rebuild lamps with HIDs away.
Thats because you are using crappy lenses. Even still, my sunfire had fluted lenses like yours and the HID's were a HUGE improvement. I will never drive a car without HID's again, period. These may be "Chinese" projectors, but they are sure as hell just as good as any other OEM ones ive seen on the road.

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Welp, I finally got them. They are the SAME ones every one else has with the proprietary bulb, not the D2H I was promised.

I'm not going to return them though.

But for $18 each, I/we can buy a few sets of bulbs and be set for a while. Not too worried about it. Definitely wanted the D2H bulb, but not a great deal breaker.

Will probably install Wednesday/Thursday.

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Good to hear, dont worry about the bulb too much as new ones can always get ordered.

Remember to take your time installing this and dont be in any rush. Dont seal the unit until your lights are perfectly aligned. Took me almost a week of adjusting this and that before i was happy.

Good luck, and lets see some progress pics along the way

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Got them in.

I did not seal the housings back together, don't know that I even will ever. I did put the top clips back in, the bottom ones didn't want to stay put.. I think the housing or lense deformed a tad from the oven.

I am having one issue though. I seem to have about 0.8v on my high beam trigger wire coming from the factory wiring when in low beam mode. This causes the system to always run in high beam mode. I had to pull the high beam trigger wires from the connectors so that the low beams would come on. Switching the wires at their connector back and forth (9004 or 9007 style) didn't make a difference.


























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I started at.. 9:30 a.m., had to pick up the kids from school at 12:30, and am back in the house to make dinner now at 5:30 p.m.

Still have to aim them properly, and will get night shots, but it will have to wait until the wife gets home tonight, I've got the kids right now.

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Did you wire the lights as I indicated in a previous post, or did you follow the directions in the instruction book? Those instructions are wrong.

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Actually somehow I managed to miss that. Page 2.

I will go rewire the connectors tonight, thanks!

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Okay, I managed to get the high beams working. The light harness came miswired.... The correct wiring scheme, with the flat part of the connector down, open end up from left to right is white, blue, brown.
eh?

Trying to think.

So, say you have the female side of the connector facing away from you so you're looking at the wiring side, with the flat side facing down, it'd be white/blue/brown? Or am I missing something?

edit: yup, thats it. works great now.

oh, and btw, HOOLEEEY CRAP I CAN SEE AGAIN!!!!! pics to come after the kids are in bed!

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So, after living/driving with these lights for a few nights, I've got to say I like them. Don't LOVE them, but they are much better than the halogens. I have a little bit of an artifact on the drivers side due to some hazing of the original lense I couldn't buff out, and it's annoying enough that I'll probably be buying new housings to redo this with.

I'm sure it's due to the low cost of these kits, but neither bulbs seems to be the 6k I ordered. The left side is a little greenish compared to the right side, which is a pretty full blue. Nowhere near an OEM bulb. ( I know oem is 4300k, but mine are like ricer-blue..)

The beam pattern on these are really narrow compared to what I've seen on another HID retrofit forum.

So while I like these and will continue to use them (vs putting the useless halogens back in), I'll be starting to save up for a real OEM projector retrofit in new housings.

They also point out how mushy the stock suspension is, as I have to aim them a bit lower than I want, otherwise when you're on the gas they end up going very high. And around here I spend a lot of time on the gas.

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^^ i had the same problem with my bulbs. Its not the kit, or the projectors, its the **** bulbs. But you cant exactly complain for the price they are worth. Have you tried using the Meguires Scratch X stuff that i used on mine? They were SCUFFED and i mean like NO cutoff line... then i spent an hour and a half buffing the **** out of them and they look brand new again.

I would like to find me some different bulbs for sure, compared to my old ones which were a white/blue/purple blend (8k) these are green. I am still waiting to hear back from the manufacturer on what kind of bulb they are though :S

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