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go to a junkyard and buy a set of el cheapos and slap them on. Then, when you show the cop it's fixed, go home and put the niteshades back on lol

I don't know how to get that off, but I'm sure aircraft paint stripper would work...it's like gorilla glue in paint stripper form....don't know what it'd do the headlights though, since that crap would have to be sanded down almost...

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i hate this crap!

makes it very hard for other drivers to see your brake lights during the day!

This post is not directed toward anyone here.....just ranting!

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i hate this crap!

makes it very hard for other drivers to see your brake lights during the day!

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Dude, it's funny you should mention that. Yesterday on my way back from Kentucky (at night), I was looking at this Mustang that the tailights were so dim, I thought his alternator must not be working and he's killing his battery. When he hit his brake lights, they were almost as bright as everybody else's tailights. Well, after I passed him, I could see his headlights in the mirror and they were VERY bright; I figured he must have had those blacked out tailights.

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I had the GTS headlight and taillight covers when I was in high school and those were dangerous as #$%^ at night. I can't believe I drove with those things on at night - couldn't see anything. I'd forget to take them off and leave a brightly lit parking lot and woah! Not worth the hassle of taking them off and putting them back on

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It depends on how dark you go. I did mine a few weaks ago and installed brighter bulbs. Worked great at night and real good in the day. Hell its better then no brake lights like alot of them around here.
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It depends on how dark you go. I did mine a few weaks ago and installed brighter bulbs. Worked great at night and real good in the day. Hell its better then no brake lights like alot of them around here.
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I did mine about 3months ago. I taped the bird and cut the outline with a box cutter so the paint wouldnt touch it,

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i hate this crap!

makes it very hard for other drivers to see your brake lights during the day!

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I agree 1,000,000,000% !!!

Dudes - get covers. Or make some.

WHY go out of your way to make it hard to see your car at night?

WHY not just close your eyes and drive????

I'll direct it to EVERYONE who does this stupid, idiotic crap on street cars.

(Trailer queens and show only cars? Darken to your heart's content. If it hits the street - I really DO hope the police pull your plates and your license for driving such a stupidly moronic piece of crap on the road.)

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I agree 1,000,000,000% !!!

Dudes - get covers. Or make some.

WHY go out of your way to make it hard to see your car at night?

WHY not just close your eyes and drive????

I'll direct it to EVERYONE who does this stupid, idiotic crap on street cars.

(Trailer queens and show only cars? Darken to your heart's content. If it hits the street - I really DO hope the police pull your plates and your license for driving such a stupidly moronic piece of crap on the road.)

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Now, that wasn't really called for, was it? Just because you don't like it/think it's unsafe, whatever, don't flame others for doing it. I don't agree with doing it with the headlights, as the OP also said, but as long as you don't completely blacken out your tail lights, what the F is the problem? You can see them just fine at night, and just fine during the day, as long as they are done right. Having a non-smoked third brake light helps as well It's not like everyone who does it is purposely making their car hard to see at night, read all the posts, they are looking for brighter lights as well, or adding LED strips, looking for better ways to brighten the lights up after doing this. I never once got pulled over for smoking my tail lights, why? Well, maybe BECAUSE THEY COULD BE SEEN AND WERE PERFECTLY SAFE!

This was not a "post your dumb opinions about using Niteshades on your car" thread, it was made by the OP to show others how to do it right, let's leave it that way.

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+1 I agree with you bird. And get covers, They do the same thing. Except they look worse.

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Hey Guys I Need Some Help ASAP!...i did the VHT NightShades on My 97 Bird With 3-4Coats and Then I Added 3-4 Coats Of Clear Coat..But Yesterday I Got Pulled Over And If I Do Not Remove It In 10 Days I Will Be Fined...What Is The Quickest Easiest Way To Get Off 3-4Coats Of VHT & 3-4Coats Of Clear? I Tried Paint Thinner But It Didnt Seem To Be Doing The Job....Just Running Off Or Somthing...
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Cool thats why i said try a small spot first

I WAS ABLE TO DO MINE BY QUICK WIPING NOT LEAVING THE ACETONE STAY ON LONG ....LOAD THE RAG WITH ACETONE WIPE QUICK LET DRY DO AGAIN THATS WHY NEED A LOT OF RAGS THE PAINT SUCKS INTO THE RAGS THEY ARE NO GOOD SO A NEW ONE MUST BE USED AFTER EACH WIPE
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It depends on how dark you go. I did mine a few weaks ago and installed brighter bulbs. Worked great at night and real good in the day. Hell its better then no brake lights like alot of them around here.
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I WAS ABLE TO DO MINE BY QUICK WIPING NOT LEAVING THE ACETONE STAY ON LONG ....LOAD THE RAG WITH ACETONE WIPE QUICK LET DRY DO AGAIN THATS WHY NEED A LOT OF RAGS THE PAINT SUCKS INTO THE RAGS THEY ARE NO GOOD SO A NEW ONE MUST BE USED AFTER EACH WIPE
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Now, that wasn't really called for, was it? Just because you don't like it/think it's unsafe, whatever, don't flame others for doing it. I don't agree with doing it with the headlights, as the OP also said, but as long as you don't completely blacken out your tail lights, what the F is the problem? You can see them just fine at night, and just fine during the day, as long as they are done right. Having a non-smoked third brake light helps as well It's not like everyone who does it is purposely making their car hard to see at night, read all the posts, they are looking for brighter lights as well, or adding LED strips, looking for better ways to brighten the lights up after doing this. I never once got pulled over for smoking my tail lights, why? Well, maybe BECAUSE THEY COULD BE SEEN AND WERE PERFECTLY SAFE!

This was not a "post your dumb opinions about using Niteshades on your car" thread, it was made by the OP to show others how to do it right, let's leave it that way.
Niteshades applied lightly will allow a proper amount of light to pass through if the bulb wattage is raised, but using 20 coats till the lens is no longer transparent diminishes light output immensely and becomes a major hazzard to other drivers, day or night. Half the cars in this thread are dangerously dark, and the majority of the ones on the road are even worse. Trying to figure out how to make it safer after the fact doesnt make it any better, that should be thought of before the can is even shaken.

Also this thread is not "whore your overly applied nightshades thread" either, its supposed to be a TECH thread(as in, don't post unless you have tech to add). This thread needs serious pruning and a lock.

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Im sorry but if you can't see this during the day then you sir are the hazzard on the road.

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damn it seems like we have a bunch of gandpappies in here i love dark taillights but the best way to tint them is with tinted clear it looks more professional. J.M.T.C.

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Hey Guys I Need Some Help ASAP!...i did the VHT NightShades on My 97 Bird With 3-4Coats and Then I Added 3-4 Coats Of Clear Coat..But Yesterday I Got Pulled Over And If I Do Not Remove It In 10 Days I Will Be Fined...What Is The Quickest Easiest Way To Get Off 3-4Coats Of VHT & 3-4Coats Of Clear? I Tried Paint Thinner But It Didnt Seem To Be Doing The Job....Just Running Off Or Somthing...
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I thought this was a cool effect on the bird.. Where we taped them off the spray couldnt get into the grooves around them. The effect @ night looks like neon trim! haha
For the light behind the tbird logo, did you just install some lights? im debating on doing that as well
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All 94-97 Thunderbirds had led panels in the deck lights, if your 96 dosent yours probably burned out, you can replace the led or get a working set off another car

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hmmmm ive got the deck lid panels off my car now so ill check em out to see. only thing i know is when i took them off, there was 1 wire running, and that was for the reverse light, no other wires ran into the panel
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It's possible that someone cut the wires. Someone else had the exact same issue and when he ran new wires the panel worked perfectly. Years of not being used kept them in perfect condition.

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there should be a reverse light, and then there should be a white plug dangiling from behind the decklid kinda where the reverse lights are, the tail light should have the male end that plug IIRC

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I'll check em out today and see if something just isnt/wasnt connected, if so check it and post back later. thanks for the info!
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yeah they ended up having them after all so your right :P they just werent plugged in is all
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any canadian members interested in doing this, you can buy the night shades paint from canadiantire $12 a can no shipping fees or times. i did my old sable tail lights with this and only used less than half a can...and i put to much on. anyone wondering 1 can is more then enough
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also i wouldnt do more then 4 coats i did i think 5 and during the day hours you could not see my brakes lights... kinda asking to get rear ended, i did my buddys and did 3 thin coats turned out perfect.
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also i wouldnt do more then 4 coats i did i think 5 and during the day hours you could not see my brakes lights... kinda asking to get rear ended, i did my buddys and did 3 thin coats turned out perfect.
It all depends on how heavy you coat it. If you do it in moderation it can turn out safe and still look good.
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Let me add to the headlight painting portion of this thread since some parts are kind of vague. I am currently painting the inside of my headlights and clear corners and it is a bittersweet process so far. The 1997 headlights are fairly easy to work on. To separate the lens from the reflector, I found that setting your oven to "warm" and heating it for twenty minutes or so on a cookie sheet works best. Take off the metal clips and put them aside as they are critical to holding the pieces together as they cool when the process is finished. Use a oven mitt when removing one headlight at a time. You should check them several times after twenty minutes and you will notice that the glue will begin to become pliable. Use a wide prying tool and carefully separate. It may take a few tries in and out of the oven before you finally get it. When all the pieces are apart, mask off the areas you don't want painted, and spray it up. No scuffing or special paint is needed. When dry, remove the tape and you may notice some areas that need some attention. For paint removal I carefully used Q-tips and nail polish remover. Be careful not to rub to long on the reflectors as the chrome will come off, showing the black undercoat. If this happens, don't worry, it's not too visible when complete. Do not pour the remover directly onto the plastic because it will chemically melt the plastic...so dip...don't pour. When you're satisfied with your work, put all four pieces back on your cookie sheet and bake for twenty, reversing your process. Eventually they will come back together without the use of any additional glue. Some may say that you do but you may notice that these are not sealed housings, as evidenced by the black tubes that allow moisture to escape and for fresh air to defog the lenses. Put the metal clips back on and let them cool. I put mine in the freezer to hasten the process.*

Clear corners are a completely different beast. There are primarily two types of glue used on clear corner lights...glue similar to that used on your headlights, or glue that is unaffected by heat. Throw your corners in the oven with the headlights to check which type you have. If they separate easily, give them the same treatment as you did the headlights. If not, you're in for some man-hours! Opening will require the use of a Dremel tool. You will need to cut the lens from the housing. This is not terribly hard. Cut along the edge closest to the housing. You will notice that in some areas your dremel cut-off wheel will not cut deep enough, so you will have to cut into the housing, making sure to keep the mounting tabs for the weatherseal intact. Once you have it separated, make sure to remove the silver metallic paint on the outside edge. Mask. Paint. Then use a caulking gun glue like Liquid Nails to reseal your edges. It may look rough on the outsides but once you get them bolted back into your header panel you will never notice.

A few things to remember while working on this project...
1) There is no need to do a crazy tape job when masking to match the spears at the end of the ribbed areas of the reflector as this attention to detail will not be noticed.
2) If you take out any of the bulb covers when painting...don't forget to put them BACK IN!!!
3) Wash all inside surfaces of the lens/reflector. You may never get a chance to get the grubby fingerprints off again.*
4) Take your time while doing this project. Take plenty of breaks to prevent frustration or part damage. Total time for this project is 10+ hours so make it a weekend deal

Once everything is done, you will be quite pleased with the new look to your Thunderbird/Cougar if you're into this type of thing. (Obviously you are if you are reading this thread)

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