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Rear Deck Recover in Black

I have been wanting to change my rear deck from grey to black to go with the carpet and make it blend in more. I also wanted to remove the 3rd brake light since it wasn't used anymore since I use the one in the spoiler.

I looked at some of those premade covers and ended up with a $10 roll of black Ozite and some contact cement. I replaced the 6x9 speakers with 8" woofers while I was at it.



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Looks clean from what I can see

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I've wanted to do that myself, did you recover the seatbelt things on the deck as well?

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I actually got some black seat belt covers from someone on SCCOA.

It would probably be easier to dye them vs recover since they are curvey.

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wow that looks nice, thats actually the thing i was just looking into...what subs did you put back there? can u take some pics of your set-up? How does it sound?

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No Subs, those are Dayton Audio RS225-4 8" woofers running 35-800 hz powered with a 200 watt Kicker amp. Those are 10" grills as 8" were too small.

I am not into the body thumping bass from subs.

I have JL Audio 6" mid-bass running 800-5,000 hz powered with a 150 watt Kenwood amp in the stock rear holes. I think that setup makes for some good rear fill, nothing exotic.






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So how did you remove the rear deck piece? I see you have to pull out the seat belt covers and then take out the bolts for the seat belt assembly. But what do you do with the 3rd brake like? I was thinking about recovering mine and got about as far as that.
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Please PM me if you guys need a set of tan seatbelt/third brakelight covers in good condition to play with dyeing (some of the last unsold things off my Lemons track car).

IMO, RIT dye should work.

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To remove the deck I did not take out the bolts holding the seat belts in place. I removed the covers, slid the 3rd brake light cover forward and removed it. There is a screw holding the 3rd brake light in place. Take out the push-pin behind the rear seat and it the cover should come off.

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What applications would I have seen this ozite carpet in before? I am considering doing a black interior on my black sport sometime.

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I have heard of people glueing it in place of the factory floor carpet for weight savings.

I have only seen it on the rear deck in a car. It looks just like the texture of the factory rear deck carpet. I would think that is also ozite.

Speaker boxes are covered in a gray ozite.

It is also used in RV headliners.

I am sure there are plenty of other uses.

It is made from recycled soft drink/water bottles.

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It is made from recycled soft drink/water bottles.
Feels like it too, which is why I'm on the hunt for some alcantara for mine

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Yeah, I dont know what that is either, lol. I will do a search. I was going to find some black vinyl for the job most likely.

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you said they are not subs, but woofers. subwoofer.... unless i am retarded cuz i just woke up, they are the same thing are they not? i stumbled upon your thread cuz im thinking bout changing my entire interior to black, what you did looks real good.

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you said they are not subs, but woofers. subwoofer.... unless i am retarded cuz i just woke up, they are the same thing are they not? i stumbled upon your thread cuz im thinking bout changing my entire interior to black, what you did looks real good.
Technically, a subwoofer fills in bass below where the woofer drops out.

For instance, my home stereo AR7s are solid down to about 50Hz. I'd use a sub to fill in from say 60 to 15 or 20.

Practically, in cars, they're used interchangeably.

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thank you for clarifying that Ralph. now it makes sense

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Bump!!!

I'm about to do this exact thing. I'm curious if the OP (or anyone else...) removed the old covering or just went over it. I've got the panel that deletes the 3rd brake light and I've tried to remove the covering but the 'board' is just some stiff type insulation material. It's not very rigid and is shredding as I try to peel the covering off. Also, what would be a good adhesive for this?

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I don't think it would be possible to remove the fabric from its backing..
They used some sort of cardboard material bonded to the back of the fabric..
Doing so would potentially destroy the fabric and or backing, rendering it useless..

If you planned on recovering the Rear Deck Cover anyways, maybe it would be wise to start with a new backing material..
Might I suggest 1/8" Lauan Panelling as a backing material for the fabric..

You could use your 3rd brake light delete panel as a template to cut the Lauan to the right size and shape..
Then just glue your new fabric down with some Headliner Adhesive

The seat belt pods are going to require a little more work, but the headliner adhesive should work well if you need to recover those as well..






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The panel itself is made from some sort of shredded cloth or something then pressed into shape with the carpet glued to that. Getting the factory carpet to come off cleanly is basically impossible. I found two of the delete panels so I grabbed them both to have one I could test on. I saved the better of the two for the actual project.

I ended up with THIS recycled plastic carpeting from O'Reilly and THIS spray adhesive from Hobby Lobby (40% off coupon!).

This is the panel after I got it as clean as possible and ready for the adhesive. I also trimmed off the folded fabric around the curved edge. You can see the new carpet in the background.



The directions on the adhesive say to spray both pieces for the best possible bond. I only bought the one can, and it was just enough to spray the entire panel but not the new fabric. This was not a problem for me, but if you want to spray both buy 2 cans of the adhesive. By the time I got done spraying the panel it had enough tack to apply the fabric. This adhesive stays tacky for a few minutes so it's pretty easy to work with. I paid close attention to the edges and the relief of the contours. I think it came out really nice for the effort and cost involved.

This is before I cut and wrapped the rounded edge that goes toward the glass. I'll get a finished pic up once I do that.


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I don't think it would be possible to remove the fabric from its backing..
They used some sort of cardboard material bonded to the back of the fabric..
Doing so would potentially destroy the fabric and or backing, rendering it useless..

If you planned on recovering the Rear Deck Cover anyways, maybe it would be wise to start with a new backing material..
Might I suggest 1/8" Lauan Panelling as a backing material for the fabric..

You could use your 3rd brake light delete panel as a template to cut the Lauan to the right size and shape..
Then just glue your new fabric down with some Headliner Adhesive

The seat belt pods are going to require a little more work, but the headliner adhesive should work well if you need to recover those as well..

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I'm not sure that a flat piece of lauan would work because the deck isn't entirely flat. I also wanted to keep it as 'stock' looking as possible. I already have the black seatbelts and their covers.

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I'd like to see how this matches up with the factory black seatbelt covers. I'd like to do the same with mine over the winter

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I'll get some pics of that as well as side by side pics of my recovered delete panel and the stock black panel that it is replacing.

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Ok, so basically you just glued the new fabric over the old fabric?





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Yes. I just wanted to share my experiences in case someone wants to do this.

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Most auto parts stores have 3m tri adhesive. Its really the best stuff to use, but don't get any on your paint or anything nice as it can do damage. It is spray on both sides and when tacky you can lay the fabric down. You can lift and reapply if necessary. I've used it on lots of different projects like vintageMustang headliners and after 25 years, its still holding.

If the seat belt covers are plastic, some vinyl dye in a spray can does a great job. As long as you clean the part properly it won't ever flake or peel off. The finish is amazing and does not look 'painted.'

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I finally got this finished up. Here is the recovered panel against the stock 93 panel and belt covers. The covers are faded a bit but it may not be too bad. If I don't like it, I'll shoot them with the SEM color coat that everything else is getting.




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Better than I expected, does the texture feel the same? I'm nearing the point I'll be doing this one way or another.

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Yeah the texture is a match. It's the same type of material. I didn't notice those slight lines you can see until I looked at the pics. I'd do it again the same way.

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Great! I know my weekend project

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On one of my previous cars I used a spray can of black carpet dye to do this. It held up surprisingly well over the years and the fabric kept about the same feel. I would use it again

Like Dusty said in 2011... might be useful for the seat belt covers at least.

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Bought a roll of the O'reilly carpet today, definitely a decent match. The factory black seatbelt covers are a hair lighter(Cougar package trays generally don't get UV damage like the Tbirds) but close enough. As said, texture is identical, it's a lot softer though(not a negative). I should have enough leftover to do the door bottoms as well




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