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The Speedometer/Cluster Thread

I've never seen anyone document all the Speedometers/Clusters that were available in the:

89-97 Thunderbird
89-97 Cougar
93-98 Mark VIII


Please add any Stock Speedometer/Cluster pics...That I may have missed..

From the:

89-97 Thunderbird
89-97 Cougar
93-98 Mark VIII


Enjoy some of these rare pics!


1989-1990 Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe & 1989-1990 Mercury Cougar XR-7 Cluster




1989-1990 Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe & 1989-1990 Mercury Cougar XR-7 200KPH Cluster




1991-1993 Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe Cluster




1994-1995 Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe Cluster




1994-1995 Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe 220KPH Cluster




1989-1993 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar 85Mph Cluster




1989-1993 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar 200 KPH Cluster




1991-1992 Ford Thunderbird Sport or LX with 5.0 Engine...
1991-1992 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with 5.0 Engine Cluster




1991-1992 Ford Thunderbird Sport or LX with 5.0 Engine...
1991-1992 Mercury Cougar XR-7 with 5.0 Engine 200 KPH Cluster..




1993-1996 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar 6 Gauge Cluster




1993-1996 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar (200KPH) 6 Gauge Cluster




1997 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar Cluster




1989-1993 Ford Thunderbird & Mercury Cougar Digital Dash




1993-1996 Lincoln Mark VIII Cluster




1997-1998 Lincoln Mark VIII Cluster









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Few corrections...

-The first pic isn't a stock 89-93 SC cluster. It's a 94/5 SC cluster with a 89/90 speedo swapped into it. The smaller fonts used on the "norm", "boost" and "vacuum" are the giveaways, as well as the absence of the center tick at 0 vacuum/boost which is present on the 89-93 clusters.

-On the subject of 89-93 SC clusters, there's a few variations. The original one was the grey bezeled unit found in 1989 and most 1990s and full width centered trip odometer with exposed mounting screws. The bezel by late 90 and onto 93 was remolded in black and the speedometer head was replaced by one without mounting screws and an offset trip odometer, used up to 1996

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-The "sport" cluster was 1991-1992 only and was superceded by the 93 cluster which had redesigned framing for the dummy lights. The unique feature to this cluster is that it shared a different frame and flexible circuit board from the Supercoupe clusters. due to the upper fuel gauge and additional tach pin (for V8s) not present in the original SC design.

-The 6 gauge you have listed 1991-1996 is actually 1994-1996, replacing the sport cluster as I mentioned. This was a cost cutting move for the 1993 MY so as to utilize the same flexible circuit and frame between the regular LX and Supercoupes. The only difference separating the 1993 and 1994-1996 clusters then were the gauge details like the solid 5250 redline ticks and smaller "norm" fonts as well as deeper cluster glass and bezel for the new interior. Otherwise the 93 is visually identical to the 91/92 sport except the volt/fuel gauges being flipped

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Another nice post by Rayo! You go, man! I vote STICKY (maybe combine some of those other cluster/speedometer stickies with this one)!!!

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Darn, and I was looking for another place to show off my custom SHO/MN12 hybrid cluster.

Nice work!

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Oh and there's also the 220 Kph 94/5 supercoupe cluster


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Few corrections...

-The first pic isn't a stock 89-93 SC cluster. It's a 94/5 SC cluster with a 89/90 speedo swapped into it. The smaller fonts used on the "norm", "boost" and "vacuum" are the giveaways, as well as the absence of the center tick at 0 vacuum/boost which is present on the 89-93 clusters.

-On the subject of 89-93 SC clusters, there's a few variations. The original one was the grey bezeled unit found in 1989 and most 1990s and full width centered trip odometer with exposed mounting screws. The bezel by late 90 and onto 93 was remolded in black and the speedometer head was replaced by one without mounting screws and an offset trip odometer, used up to 1996

-The "sport" cluster was 1991-1992 only and was superceded by the 93 cluster which had redesigned framing for the dummy lights. The unique feature to this cluster is that it shared a different frame and flexible circuit board from the Supercoupe clusters. due to the upper fuel gauge and additional tach pin (for V8s) not present in the original SC design.

-The 6 gauge you have listed 1991-1996 is actually 1994-1996, replacing the sport cluster as I mentioned. This was a cost cutting move for the 1993 MY so as to utilize the same flexible circuit and frame between the regular LX and Supercoupes. The only difference separating the 1993 and 1994-1996 clusters then were the gauge details like the solid 5250 redline ticks and smaller "norm" fonts as well as deeper cluster glass and bezel for the new interior. Otherwise the 93 is visually identical to the 91/92 sport except the volt/fuel gauges being flipped

Ive made corrections and updated the Cluster pics..

If you can find any pics of the Clusters I might have missed...Please post them..


That 94-95 Supercoupe 220 Kph Cluster surprised me..Good Find!






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Another nice post by Rayo! You go, man! I vote STICKY (maybe combine some of those other cluster/speedometer stickies with this one)!!!
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Darn, and I was looking for another place to show off my custom SHO/MN12 hybrid cluster.

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from my 1988 Cougar. It was digital and analog. Very few ive seen with this.

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Actually that's the most common, that was standard on the base, LX, GS, and LS Tbird/Cougar models. Full digital and full analog were optional or standard on the turbo/sports or XR7

But this is an MN12 thread

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Actually that's the most common, that was standard on the base, LX, GS, and LS Tbird/Cougar models. Full digital and full analog were optional or standard on the turbo/sports or XR7

But this is an MN12 thread
Yes, my cousin had a digital dash like that.

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Wonder why they went from digital to mechanical? A lot of problems with the early digital I assume?

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Wonder why they went from digital to mechanical? A lot of problems with the early digital I assume?
I know there was a spurt of demand for digital at first, then the public wanted the analog again. Why do you think so many cars today have analog gauges still? Cheap and the demand is still there!

Corvette's had digital for awhile, then they went back to analog too.

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They were sort of a flash in the pan gimmick for a while and basically fell out of favor. They were almost exclusive to American cars in the 80s while yuppymobile BMWs and Benzes were ultimately the real trend setters by that point(which were exclusively analog). Plus most digital gauges offered didn't tell you much more than speed and gas and could be difficult to read in sunlight, unlike analog. Though I like the ones in the 85+ Fox and MN12s since they pack all the other gauges in, and they're laid out nicely.

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Digital was available on the crown vic and grand marquis until very recently

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The median age of their owners experienced the time when digital dashes were still cool
I tend to agree with that statement.

Some stuff is good in digital. Some is better in analog.

I mean, if I'm interested in the actual PSI of the oil, or the degrees the water temp is, digital is fine.

OTOH, my REAL concern is "Do I HAVE oil pressure, is it high enough and not too high?" and for temp "Is it too hot? Not hot enough?" There's a range on both, and therefore analog gauges are more sensible for the average driver.

Err - average GOOD driver. Most drivers just need a big red "Your car is FUBARed!" light ...

For speed, analog also works better - if the needle is 1/2 between 60 and 70, it's 65. You don't have to cipher out the "6" "5" "durrr, that's six tens, sixty, and five ones, 5, so it's 60 + 5 or 65".

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I Have a 1991 Thunderbird with a 85 MPH analog dash 3 gauge cluster. I would like to update it to the sport dash cluster with 6 analog gauges. what changes need to be made to use the 120 MPH dash cluster?
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I Have a 1991 Thunderbird with a 85 MPH analog dash 3 gauge cluster. I would like to update it to the sport dash cluster with 6 analog gauges. what changes need to be made to use the 120 MPH dash cluster?
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Grab a 1991 EVTM, and check out sections 60 (the base cluster) and 61 (the sport). But to make it quick - be sure to grab the connectors and as much wiring as possible, because you've got to rewire the dash harness, and add the extra sensors.

Just because you've got a wider range, I'd suggest grabbing a 93-96 cluster instead, but even it's wired differently! So grab an EVTM of the year cluster you grab, but once again, as much of the support wiring as you can.

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Let me see if I understand this correct. Is the '93 cluster a physical fit in the '91? Just wiring is different? There are 3 of the '93 clusters in the local yard, and I almost grabbed one today, but wasn't sure. Thanks.
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Yes, physically all the 89-93 Clusters are an exact physical fit in all 89-93 Dashes, it's just a matter of wiring. 94-96 Clusters also fit but the bezel and acrylic glass should be swapped since they stick out more at the bottom due to the the 94-96 Dash design.

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Thanks for the info. Have the '91 and '93 EVTM's ordered and on their way. I have total access to our shop while we are closed for the holidays, and trying to make the best of it.
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