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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-13-2017, 03:32 AM Thread Starter
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Removing power window motor. 95 Bird

It's been years since I replaced the power window motor (just the motor and gearbox). So I've completely forgotten about this. Do I have to do anything like taping the window if it's in the up position to prevent the sliding down and banging my arm up when I remove the motor? Also, are any of the tracks or guides rivited in? I'd like to clean them out and grease them up, but apparently the opening on the bottom track is facing the inside away from you when you remove the door cover

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I've read reports of injuries caused by the window falling down from people replacing window lift motors. So I always find a properly sized board to prop up the window before I remove the motor. Just don't forget to take out the board when you test the new motor before putting the door panel back on. Recommend you don't remove the tracks unless you are skilled in aligning them after reinstalling. Work some grease in with the tracks intact.
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Would putting long strips of strong duct tape down the windows and strapping them around the door work to keep the window from sliding? I'm not sure I have a piece of wood or pipe the right size and I'm wary of jamming something into the door since it's already having some sort of track issue.
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That depends on how much duct tape you use, whether or not the surface is clean, whether or not it is properly placed, etc., etc., etc.

Stop at Home Depot and pick up a shortboard from the pre-cut scraps section. The one I use is about 3/2" x 5/8" x 18".

Don't overthink this, it's easy. Just jump right in and get it done.

Good luck with it and enjoy the repair job.
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I didn't make any provisions when I rebuilt my window motor, I just took it out thru the speaker hole with the window up.

And we talked about this in another thread, but the only part of the window that needs lubed is to spray silicone in the rubber vertical "slot" that you can see from outside the car. Put the window down, spray silicone in there, and wind the window up and down several times. It will also work it's way all down in there where it needs to.

This was recommended by RobertP, who has worked on more T-Birds than anyone. He mentioned that Honda brand silicone was best.

And also mentioned in another thread, just rebuild the motors with new plastic pins. The total cost is under $10, versus $150 for some inferior parts. Will take an extra hour.

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I didn't make any provisions when I rebuilt my window motor, I just took it out thru the speaker hole with the window up.

And we talked about this in another thread, but the only part of the window that needs lubed is to spray silicone in the rubber vertical "slot" that you can see from outside the car. Put the window down, spray silicone in there, and wind the window up and down several times. It will also work it's way all down in there where it needs to.

This was recommended by RobertP, who has worked on more T-Birds than anyone. He mentioned that Honda brand silicone was best.

And also mentioned in another thread, just rebuild the motors with new plastic pins. The total cost is under $10, versus $150 for some inferior parts. Will take an extra hour.

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I find it strange the horizontal tracks wouldn't need some form of lube after nearly 20 years, it's just plastic on metal from what I've seen and heard, and possibly broken plastic in one of my doors, gonna have to put up a new vapor barrier I think, the more I think about it, when I replaced the motor years back, I think I stupidly removed the barrier or it was torn. Unfortunately I don't have time for a rebuild so I just bought new acdelcos. I rebuild the ones I pull when I get the chance so I'll have some when these die out, if the the car outlasts them. What's so special about the Honda silicone lube spray, do I find it a a Honda dealer?

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Sure, it's a good idea to lube everything. But the window moves vertically, and spraying that vertical track near that's near the edge of the door will keep everything moving along nicely. And it works it's way down into the horizontal track.

My mechanic (RobertP) swears by the Honda stuff. I didn't go to the trouble of getting that brand, but I will if I find myself at the Honda dealer some day I will get some.

The vapor barrier protects the interior panel from moisture.

I recommended rebuilding the Ford one's. They fit exactly like they should. But you already have an aftermarket one, I guess they're worth rebuilding.

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