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5x7 speakers.. What's good and not expensive

Looking to replace the door speakers and back speakers in my 95. I have a JVC head unit. I'm looking for something with good bass and that doesn't distort when cranked. I'm on a budget so not crazy expensive.
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Looking to replace the door speakers and back speakers in my 95. I have a JVC head unit. I'm looking for something with good bass and that doesn't distort when cranked. I'm on a budget so not crazy expensive.
I have a set of Sony Xplod 5x7 four way speakers in my doors and rear locations, along with a 12" enclosed sub with it's own 100W amp in bridged mode running off a Sony head unit. I like them a lot. At some point I may swap the front speakers for a set of component speakers, but it's not a priority. I'm sure there are "better" speakers, but I am not an audiophile by any means. They put out decent bass, but I prefer a small sub with just enough power to fill in where the small speakers lack.

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Another member suggested the xplods in the doors and kickers for the rear. I may go that route. Not a huge sony fan but for the price.. I may just do it
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Another member suggested the xplods in the doors and kickers for the rear. I may go that route. Not a huge sony fan but for the price.. I may just do it
My last Thunderbird had Kenwood 3 way's all the way through it, and I liked how they sounded as well. Again, I'm no audiophile, but they sound good enough to me. I bought them and the Sony head unit not because of the name, but because they had the features I wanted (front and rear USB, bluetooth, etc).

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I thought they were 6"x8"...


I put these in all 3 cars:

JBL P8662

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item...JBL-P8662.html

They're Disco, but I'm sure there's something similar.

Just know you aren't getting any real bass out of these size speakers, and you need woofers or a sub.

I run 75wx4, and a 750 sub , and it sounds great.

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I thought they were 6"x8"...


I put these in all 3 cars:

JBL P8662

https://www.sonicelectronix.com/item...JBL-P8662.html

They're Disco, but I'm sure there's something similar.

Just know you aren't getting any real bass out of these size speakers, and you need woofers or a sub.

I run 75wx4, and a 750 sub , and it sounds great.
5x7 and 6x8 generally fit in the same hole. I can't recall which mine are to be honest.

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I've got Boston S-85s. They were only $120 for the set of four. They're pretty good overall, but I am pulling some of low and high mids from them in the EQ to help make the curve more "flat". IIRC I'm pulling 2-3 dB at about 250 Hz (Q is 2.0) and also pulling about 4 dB (Q 1.5) around 2 K. If you crank them hard you'll want to pull more 2K for less harshness.

Bass response was better than stock premium speakers before I added the sub but as most have already said, for "real" bass response you'll need a dedicated woofer.

There are a few more details on the audio setup on my garage page...

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I roll off the frequencies below about 250Hz with a 60dB/octave filter, and use the sub to ~400Hz.

Subs begin to get directional ~350Hz for me, so ymmv.

The Alpine I have had some wonderful filters for the line outputs; I can even split it to a full 3-way setup... But as the front speakers are buried, it would need tweeters on the pillars or something.


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Something that doesn't distort when cranked has less to do with the speaker and more to do with the amplifier. When you hit distortion you're at the top of the power curve on the amplifier. You're out of the noise but into distortion meaning that clean sine wave you were amplifying is now flattened on the top (clipped). Your speakers attempt to play the clip and it sounds like crazy monkey farts. Get an amplifier to go with that head unit of yours. You might find that you like the speakers you already have.
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Your speakers attempt to play the clip and it sounds like crazy monkey farts.







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I replaced my sonys with infinity kappa for my car. I have a lot more mid bass and better highs. It cost like 110 a pair.
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Best 5x7s/6x8s are 2-way components (rounds)
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Yep, stock JBL FTW!

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My Jbl's are coaxial; they freaking rock.

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I would love knowing the manufacturer of the premium sound speakers in my '95 bird. They really came alive when I replaced the OEM head unit with an inexpensive JVC with bluetooth, and Pandora radio. I'm not an audiophile, but I know satisfaction when I hear it. The bass is just right for my ears. The only improvement I'd consider is 'A' pillar tweeters.

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It was either JL or JBL, can't remember. Found this out when trying to put in a factory CD in my Cougar. Ford and the vendor both told me it wasn't worth the money, and figure be the same for the speakers.

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Premium sound =/= JBL. They were separate options, Premium sound speakers I'm fairly certain are in house designs, although the headunits and CD changers are Sony designs so who knows, the speakers are standard fare oval speakers. JBL used the premium headunit, but a different amplifier, a subwoofer with it's own amp, and component speakers.

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One of my Premium Sound speakers I had in the Cougar was labeled "QUAM" on the back, with a Ford part number.

(It currently has the JBL speakers in it, since I upgraded to the JBL amp and the subwoofer about ... I think it was like 5 years ago.)

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