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Keyless entry programming

I want keyless entry and really don't want to go aftermarket. My car has the keypad on the door. I was wondering if I were to buy/find a keyfob like that which was used on our cars can I get it to work myself? What years of keyfobs can I use?

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I think the years are 93-97 4 button (lock, unlock, panic, trunk). To program the new remote, look in your trunk on the drivers side; when you peel away the "carpet" on the side, you should see the black enclosure that the module sits in. on the left (back) of the enclosure, there should be a connector with two pins. With the igntion in either ACC or RUN, short those two pins (momentarily) The locks should cycle. Now press a button on the new remote. The locks should cycle indicating the program took. When finished, turn ignition off and test newly programmed remote.

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Thanks, that seems easy enough I found that connector. Now off to find one. Is there any for sale? What is that connector there for anyway, just this?

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Huh, Ford made something simple. Thanks for the responses. I got one for $2 so Ill be programming it here soon.

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Is it the same on the stangs?

I'd like to use the 93-97 remote on my 04 stang...I hate the new ones with their rubbery buttons

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Is it the same on the stangs?

I'd like to use the 93-97 remote on my 04 stang...I hate the new ones with their rubbery buttons
Nope. The programming sequence is different. Later this evening, I'll look it up for you, however, I don't think the 93-97 remote will work on the '04.

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Programming —Keyless Entry Remote Transmitter






NOTE:
All keyless entry remote transmitters (15K601) must be programmed at
the same time.



NOTE: All previous transmitter identification codes ( TIC's) will be erased when programming mode is entered.



NOTE: To program (or reprogram) the keyless entry remote transmitters
into the generic electronic module (GEM)(14B204),
perform the following steps.




  1. Turn the ignition from OFF to
    RUN eight times within 10 seconds, ending in RUN. If the GEM has
    successfully entered program mode, it will lock and unlock all the doors.



2.     NOTE:
The first TIC must be entered within 7.5 seconds of entering the program
mode and additional TICs must be entered within 7.5
seconds of the first TIC. The programming mode is exited whenever the timing
constraints are not met.



Press any button on a keyless entry remote transmitter,
and the doors will lock and then unlock to confirm that each keyless entry
remote transmitter has been programmed.




  1. If the door locks do not
    respond for any keyless entry remote transmitter, wait for several seconds
    and press the button again.




  1. Turn the ignition switch to
    the OFF position, or wait up to five minutes after step 1, to exit program
    mode. If a keyless entry remote transmitter has been programmed (or reprogrammed),
    the GEM will lock and unlock all the doors one last time



 


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That's for a 2003; I doubt a 2004 would be different.

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Not trying to hijack, but is the wiring for the keyless entry module there if you don't have that as an option? Basically could I just go to the junkyard snag the box and a remote and have keyless entry?
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Not trying to hijack, but is the wiring for the keyless entry module there if you don't have that as an option? Basically could I just go to the junkyard snag the box and a remote and have keyless entry?
Nope. I rewired the ENTIRE interior of my car. From the passenger door, inside, down alond the doos sill, back into the passenger side if the trunk, split odd at the edge of the seat, goes over to drivers side, splits off with wiring going to the trunk for keyless entry module, fuel door release, fuel shutoff, etc, up to front into dash with the main connector for the harness, into the drivers door...

And because I got the harness out of a '96, and my car is a '95, I had to splice in the lights on the C-pillars, moce a connector on the drivers side C pillar down under the seat, splice in wires for the lights in the keyholes, splice the proper seat power connectors on (they reversed the M/F connectors from 95 to 96), and I had to pull the fuel door release wire out of the old harness because it goes somewhere else in the '96, where it goes into the harness I swapped on the '95.

AND because I got the harness out of a '96 Cougar, the harness for the keypad wasn't in the door harness, SO, I pulled the 7 wires I needed for the keypad out of a '96 'Bird and added them to the car AFTER I did all the other wiring... so now I have the keypad, and when TX_Cat sends me a remote, I'll have that too...

I think that covers all I had to do...

Oh.. and in doing this, I had ALL the seats out, the console, pulled the dash away from the firewall, pulled the carpet part way up....

I took a few pics... If any of them show a good idea of what I did, I'll post them...

Can someone with a keypad please measure how far the keypad is from the edge of the door for me so I can cut a hole in my door? Thanks..

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On my 95 bird, the back edge of the pad is 2 5/8" from the edge of the door measured at the center of the pad. The top edge of the pad is 2" down from the bottom edge of the rubber window trim.

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pileit1, yes, that helps a lot... Thanks!

Justyn (and anyone else), here are some pics... these where taken after the harness was 98% in and the rug and some trim was back in place:





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Cougar281 Thanks for the info. That sounds like more work than I want to bother with. I guess I will continue to put the key in the door.
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Or you could go aftermarket. You would just not have the factory stuff, but since almost all MN-12's have power locks remote keyless should be easy enough. BTW, I got my remote today and I tried to program it, but no luck. I got the locks to cycle by shorting the thing in the trunk out, but the remote did nothing. Im going to replace the battery in it in hopes that its that, but if not Im glad it only cost me $2.

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Well, I tried to program it and its not working. The romte might be from a newer car though, Im sure that is what it is. The locks cycle when I short the two wires, but nothing with the new remote. BTW, I did replace the battery in the remote.

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It might be from a newer year... I just got a remote for mine, and the FCCID is GQ43VT4T. It has the four square buttons with Lock, unlock, panic, trunk.

Anyone know if the parking lamps are supposed to flash when you lock or unlock the doors?

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yeah, I think Im going to have to buy an older one. For some reason they are more expensive. Oh well.

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just thought Id let everyone know that I got a older one in today and got it programed, which was very easy. Id say if you are considering this for your car go for it, its so much easier than I thought it would be. Thanks for all the help I got.

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I have an '89 SC with the keyless entry, is it possible to just swap a newer remote keyless entry system from a 93+ into that and not have to cut anything, or perhaps even use the same keypad?
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I have an '89 SC with the keyless entry, is it possible to just swap a newer remote keyless entry system from a 93+ into that and not have to cut anything, or perhaps even use the same keypad?

I don't think so... I looked on SCCOA where they changed the permanant code, and it appears the module they used from a 1990 MN12 had two connectors on it, whereas the newer ones have three. Haven't figured out how to change the code on the newer ones...

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Would the directions in post #8 work on a 98 Taurus? I still have that newer remote and thought maybe my brother might want it. If anyone knows how to program it please let me know. He is coming up here this weekend and it would get this little remote away from me, Im afraid to lose it.

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Do the parkers flash, yes but...

On my 95 LX they do flash for a fraction of a second on the double tap. Enough to let you know you have engaged the locks from a decent distance. If the beep that also occurs wasn't enough. They flash, but very fast....

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my 94 doesn't flash @ all. it honks horn once if you hit lock twice. hit unlock once and driver' side only unlocks. gotta hit it twice for both doors to unlock.
also, i don't know if it's just my remote, but distance sux azz! sometimes, i can stand right in front of car, legs touching bumper, and it does nothing. replacing battery didn't help either.

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my 94 doesn't flash @ all. it honks horn once if you hit lock twice. hit unlock once and driver' side only unlocks. gotta hit it twice for both doors to unlock.
also, i don't know if it's just my remote, but distance sux azz! sometimes, i can stand right in front of car, legs touching bumper, and it does nothing. replacing battery didn't help either.
Mines the exact same way.. from anything more then say 15 feet away it's a hit or miss kinda thing.. it may work, it may not..

And my lights flash too, but only when you do the Double `lock' thing.. but it has to be at night and you are looking else, you never see them.. But then again.. they flash at the same rate as the horn `honks' so.. and doing that the horn honks pretty quick and short so..
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