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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 02-01-2017, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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Need a speedometer

Need a speedometer for a 96. Amount of miles and working odometer isn't important.

Or.... If anyone has a good condition 140mph from a SC, I would be interested in that. I understand they are hard to find, and would be willing to pay the going price for one.

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If you have gears broken, you can get those a few places.


You can make a speedo any speed you want; see here:

http://www.sccoa.com/faq/SpeedometerConversions.pdf

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Broke my speedometer after replacing the ODO gears. Everything went great, was thrilled that I got it put together and working properly. Then as I was putting on the speedo needle back on like the 5th time to zero it in perfectly according to my GPS.... the needle shaft broke.
My odometer still works great though! (I never use Emojis lol)

I found one on ebay for 55$. If noone here has one, ill just do the ebay thing.

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I believe I have a couple 120s in the shop. I'll look today and get pics.

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Great info ! Does anyone have contact info for Scott with the gauge faces? If so I would be interested in a working 120.
Thanks!
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Great info ! Does anyone have contact info for Scott with the gauge faces? If so I would be interested in a working 120.
Thanks!
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Scott no longer makes the gauge faces, unfortunately.

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Arrrgghh ! Anyone know how to get ahold of him?
Or if someone could high resolution scan a 120 mph face might be able to create a correct one for higher even speeds. Any interest?
I'll take one of your 120's. Let me know how to get you paid.
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Replied.... I don't have one.

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I'm pretty sure I have at least one. Let me double check when I get home this afternoon.

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Yup, got a 120mph one with bad odometer gears. How does $35 shipped sound?

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Yup, got a 120mph one with bad odometer gears. How does $35 shipped sound?
Sounds great, but I was actually able to track one down already. I really appreciate it though! I will get back to you if I screw this one up.

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Here's a wild idea.

For under $10, if you have the time for ship-from-China, you can order a function generator kit.

Assemble it.

Then, doing the math ( 8,000 pulses per mile, 60 seconds in a minute, so 133.333 pulses/second = 60 MPH - use other frequencies and solve the other way for way points on the speedo! ) you can adjust the needle on the bench, no "Let me plug this in while doing 60MPH in traffic!"

Takes a 9V battery or so for the function generator; use a full 7805 instead of the small 78L05 the kit comes with, heat sink it, and you can drive it, and the speedo, off a 12V power supply or battery.

I find this a LOT easier.

Oh, and crank it to about 260Hz on the function generator, and you can get about 120MPH to bring the odometer up to the proper setting *grins* Just be aware that it takes about 8.5 hours to run 1,000 miles, so about 3,000 every day approx; if you're about 120,000 off that's an easy 45 days of it just sitting there running.

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Thanks, I saw that option before in previous topics RalphP. I have an EE in the family that probably has the ability to easily help me out with that. I will report back if go that route, im leaning towards that option considering the trouble I had last time.

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If someone figures out how to make this read MPH instead of KM/H, that would be awesome.
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Looking for a complete 1996 TB 4.6 120 mph speedometer. My odometer gears broken and I removed the speedometer and broke the needle shaft off trying to remove the needle. Do you know of anyone who repairs these speedometers? Thanks for any help.

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Looking for a complete 1996 TB 4.6 120 mph speedometer. My odometer gears broken and I removed the speedometer and broke the needle shaft off trying to remove the needle. Do you know of anyone who repairs these speedometers? Thanks for any help.

Glenn
Don't know if you got your Speedometer fixed....but there is a Company in Idaho that will rebuild them, actually the whole cluster if you need it, good work and warranty. They rebuilt mine about 4 years ago and did a good job. There website is www.modulemaster.com
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Don't know if you got your Speedometer fixed....but there is a Company in Idaho that will rebuild them, actually the whole cluster if you need it, good work and warranty. They rebuilt mine about 4 years ago and did a good job. There website is www.modulemaster.com
Thanks, but I acquired a speedometer from a forum member and fixed my odometer gears. Reworking the mileage was very time consuming - not easy. The speedometer is back in the TB and seems to be working fine now.

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Here's a wild idea.

For under $10, if you have the time for ship-from-China, you can order a function generator kit.

Assemble it.

Then, doing the math ( 8,000 pulses per mile, 60 seconds in a minute, so 133.333 pulses/second = 60 MPH - use other frequencies and solve the other way for way points on the speedo! ) you can adjust the needle on the bench, no "Let me plug this in while doing 60MPH in traffic!"

Takes a 9V battery or so for the function generator; use a full 7805 instead of the small 78L05 the kit comes with, heat sink it, and you can drive it, and the speedo, off a 12V power supply or battery.

I find this a LOT easier.

Oh, and crank it to about 260Hz on the function generator, and you can get about 120MPH to bring the odometer up to the proper setting *grins* Just be aware that it takes about 8.5 hours to run 1,000 miles, so about 3,000 every day approx; if you're about 120,000 off that's an easy 45 days of it just sitting there running.

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Thanks for the help with this. I never would have thought calibrate it this way, found out I had the needle set 2MPH too fast after putting it back together. I'm lucky and have a EE in the family to help me out with this as well.

This time I twisted the needle and it came off very easily. I just twisted it back and forth several times, then it popped right off with the use of a fork. Replacing the gears was actually pretty straight forward, so was adjusting the odometer. It is a very simple unit, you can tell it is evolved from a cable driven design.

Pardon the mess in the picture. Kind of threw everything together in a spare room...
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