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Eclipse Party - August 21, 2017

Who's in?

So far it looks like:
  • Bowez
  • Trunk Money (Ron)
  • Grog6 (Greg)
  • Mike Shumard
  • machausta
  • theterminator93 (Brandon)
  • bulldog (Darren)

Anybody else down for this meet?

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogl...21Tgoogle.html

Suggestions for what to do or where to meet? Let's start planning now!

It looks like anywhere between Knoxville and Nashville will be good viewing.

Rod, may be you could put a feeler out on FB to see who's interested and what suggestions the group there might have.

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I nominate Grog....

Kingston to Cookeville would be best IMO, since will have good viewing and don't think will be too many people.

I personally plan on taking my kids out there to see my parents and make a couple days of it.

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I'm just barely in the area; I'm driving south.

I only get 2 minutes...

There's a park at the top of Rockwood mountain, and it's closer to the center of the beam; Spring City is even better.

There's a park near the Watts bar Dam that is near the center.

Here's the best map; zoom in:

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoog...21Tgoogle.html

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Who's in?

NASA - Total Solar Eclipse of 2017 Aug 21

Suggestions for what to do or where to meet? Let's start planning now!

It looks like anywhere between Knoxville and Nashville will be good viewing.

Rod, may be you could put a feeler out on FB to see who's interested and what suggestions the group there might have.
Maybe we could meet at my house for a little meet and greet and then head out to Watts Bar Dam like Grog suggested..
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Is it just me, or based on Grog's link it looks like near Golconda, KY (between Greatest Duration and Greatest Eclipse) might be the best from a viewing standpoint?

Not taking away from visiting Tennessee, I'm all for that, just wondering aloud.

...or Clingman's Dome, NC

...or the Tail of the Dragon...

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I figure Clingman's Dome be swapped by tourists, plus Oak Ridge would be in the totality just as long, but I can see the draw of you in Kingsport.

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So is a location determined yet? If we do it near an airport... someone want to come get me? All weather permitting, of course, and I can offer rides for those daring/brave enough/otherwise interested.

Rockwood airport looks pretty close. Mark Anton, Monroe Co. or McMinn Co. are also options; they're closer to the center of the eclipse path with a "little" more totality time.

I've got a couple telescopes with full aperture solar filters...

Driving down isn't out of the question either. It's just the difference between a 3 1/2 hour flight or an 8 hour drive.

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I have a fall back plan, let's call it plan C.

I'll post it when we get there.

Here's the info for My house vs. Spring City TN.

There's no way to format this correctly that I know of here; my bet it to paste it into notepad, and it should be right, unless the site strips spaces.

Short version of the data:

My place sees totality. We get 1m 56.9s of total solar eclipse.

If we drive to Spring city, that gets a more centered totality that lasts 2m 39.0s of total solar eclipse.

The very best possible is 2 minutes 41 seconds, somewhere in Illinois, above Kentucky.
See this map:
http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages...leMapFull.html

My House info:
GPS REDACTED 1m 56.9s (total solar eclipse)
My House info:
1m 53.5s (lunar limb corrected)
84° 31' 31.04" W <—> -84.52529°
Umbral depth : 32.56%
Umbral depth : 38.8km (24.1mi)
Path width : 115.1km (71.5mi)
Obscuration : 100.00%
Magnitude at maximum : 1.00495
Moon/Sun size ratio : 1.03043
Umbral vel. : 0.648km/s (1450 mph)

Event (ΔT=68.8s) Date Time (UT) Alt Azi P V LC
Start of partial eclipse (C1) : 2017/08/21 17:03:34.4 +64.5° 158.2° 293° 01.5
Start of total eclipse (C2) : 2017/08/21 18:32:18.5 +63.3° 208.8° 072° 10.4
+1.1s
Maximum eclipse (MAX) : 2017/08/21 18:33:17.0 +63.2° 209.3° 204° 06.0
End of total eclipse (C3) : 2017/08/21 18:34:15.3 +63.1° 209.8° 337° 01.5
-2.3s
End of partial eclipse (C4) : 2017/08/21 19:57:53.1 +50.9° 240.7° 115° 09.7


Spring City TN:
35° 41' 54.86" N <—> 35.69857°

2m 39.8s (lunar limb corrected)
Help
84° 51' 05.52" W <—> -84.85153°
Umbral depth : 99.68%
Umbral depth : 182m (596ft)
Path width : 114.9km (71.4mi)
Obscuration : 100.00%
C4
Magnitude at maximum : 1.01519
Moon/Sun size ratio : 1.03049
Umbral vel. : 0.648km/s (1450 mph)
Event (ΔT=68.8s) Date Time (UT) Alt Azi P V LC
Start of partial eclipse (C1) : 2017/08/21 17:03:03.3 +64.6° 157.1° 293° 01.5
Start of total eclipse (C2) : 2017/08/21 18:31:39.0 +63.7° 208.1° 114° 09.0
-2.1s
Maximum eclipse (MAX) : 2017/08/21 18:32:58.6 +63.6° 208.8° 204° 06.0
End of total eclipse (C3) : 2017/08/21 18:34:18.0 +63.4° 209.4° 295° 03.0
-1.3s
End of partial eclipse (C4) : 2017/08/21 19:57:49.9 +51.2° 240.6° 115° 09.7


If someone knows how to format this into a table here, I'd love to see how.

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Bump.

Want to start planning my trip out there. Can we nail down a location? So is it Mike's house and Watts Bar Dam or Grog's House and Spring City? It looks like you guys are only 9 minutes apart from Kingston to Harriman, TN. We could hang out at either or both of your places .... Either way I'll book a room in Kingston.

Are there any bars, restaurants, or parks in Spring city that we could go to? A drive down to Spring City would be really fun and I also know where there's a great back road we could drive near Watts Barr that would be a lot of fun to take the cars down. It's on the east side of the lake.

I'd like to bring my family. Do any of you guys have wives or girlfriends that my wife could hang out with?

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Depending on details and mode of transportation (and willingness of locals to assist in transportation, depending on how we get there), me, my wife and possibly her parents and/or a couple others (up to 5) might join me. Probably won't know for sure until we're within a month or less, then ultimately on weather.

Of course, the next major US viewable total eclipse passes right over my house in a touch over seven years...

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I'd like to bring the Tbird and our Explorer which would provide seating for about 4 or 6 if anyone's willing to crawl in to the third row seating in the back of the Explorer.

Transportation shouldn't be an issue, I'm sure we can work something out for you and your family Brandon.

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If I can't fly (either for weather or financial reasons) I'll most likely bring the bird and stay the night before then drive back the afternoon after the eclipse. If I fly... it will probably be a similar arrangement so as not to be too hard on anyone who comes with me, even though I wouldn't be bothered by flying down early, then heading back home after the event.

One of my sisters and her family live over in Franklin, I might reach out to her to see whether she's willing to host us.

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I'm in; but that said:

I'm a single geek, fairly much a hermit these days; my place is probably not safe for girlfriends, wives, or children, lol. (Objectionable Posters, dangerous hobbies, attack cats)

There's a spin-coating setup in my guest room for making PCBs...

I do have enough computers for a LAN party, tho. I have a copy of Q2 that will run on anything, so PM me if interested in practicing.

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I may possibly have access to about an acre area on the lake, but it will take some doing on my part, and convincing others...

So it looks like the Eclipse is Monday 6/21; early peeps would be arriving Friday 6/18, and late departure would be Tuesday 6/22. (Check this please, lol)

Partial Eclipse starts Monday at 12:03:34.4 PM EST, Totality starts at 1:32:18.5 PM EST , Maxes out at 1:33:17.0 PM EST, and lasts until 1:34:15.3 PM EST, and the Post-Full-Eclipse Partial-Eclipse lasts until 2:57:53.1 PM EST. Someone please check these numbers, I converted from ust...

I'm totally committed to this; I'll see what I can stir up here.

One thing to mention; last year was an anomaly, but usually, late August is storms and Rain.

I would check out the "Bed and Breakfast" market here; there are some killer old houses that are now B&Bs.

There are at least three hotels at the Harriman exit, and several in Oak Ridge; I'm not familiar with Kingston as much but there's plenty of places.

TM, I know just where you mean about the killer drive; I know several others, from technical to beautiful.

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LOL... Objectionable posters and dangerous hobbies are okay but I don't know about those attack cats! That's a deal breaker!

We can do a meet & greet at Mike's house since he's already volunteered for that ....

Yea, I'm just hoping that the weather will cooperate. We'll have to keep an eye on that.

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Since I brought this up yes I'm in. Me the wife and kids, at this time weather won't keep us away--but my parents live in the area.

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My sis is more than happy to bed anyone I bring down and she's "about an hour south of Nashville" so we'll have a little drive the day of, but not too bad it seems. Once we get some gathering details together with times and such I can firm up my itinerary plans and see who else would be coming...

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Hey everyone, sorry I've been such a stranger here lately, But been so busy getting the house furnished and put together. I am looking forward to meeting you all in August and we can meet at my place and go from here to the best viewing spot or?.. I am still learning the area, But let me know and I'll find the best lodging or whatever you need.
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I'm game for whatever. I should be able to be in the area by 10-10:30 AM (EST), from whichever temporary lodging spot I end up coming from. I would have to be on the road heading back home by 2, maybe 3 at the latest though to ensure both the wife and I have enough time to prepare for work Tuesday morning.

I mentioned I do have two telescopes - an 8" dobsonian altazimuth mount with a full aperture solar filter, along with a 5" motorized auto-tracking equatorial/altazimuth mount (which I need to buy a solar filter for yet) which I hope to record the eclipse with.

And yeah, I think we can find room amongst our ranks to let another Ford geek in.

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I'm in for this as well. I'll definitely be bringing my son with me, and possibly my father and brother too, if they want to come.

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Thanks for the heads up Ron regarding this thread. I don't check on here much anymore. I would love to be able to make this meet as well, but need to check with my wife. If other spouses and kids will be joining, then we might all come and make an extended weekend of it as well. I would probably plan to stay with some cousins in Knoxville if that is not too far away from the eclipse viewing site. Main thing is that I think my kids will have just started back school the week before and then we would have to take them out for 2 days, so not sure if we would do that or not. I will do some more investigating/planning and post back once we have our final decision. Worst case is I might plan to come solo with just the Bird. If the whole family comes we would have to bring two cars (I need 6 total seats, so the Bird just won't cut it anymore :-().

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Hope you can make it Kevin.

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Hey everyone, sorry I've been such a stranger here lately, But been so busy getting the house furnished and put together. I am looking forward to meeting you all in August and we can meet at my place and go from here to the best viewing spot or?.. I am still learning the area, But let me know and I'll find the best lodging or whatever you need.
Yeah Mike there might be a good spot North of Gallagher Bridge just have to climb the fence and ignore the signs
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I'm in for a trip up, well unless my work schedule changes.
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Great. I'll add your name to the list.

Mods? Yea, I got mods ...
Air silencer delete, warp drive, dilithium crystals, flux capacitor, Slingshot Rubber band power adder, Moonshine & Gas, Leaf Blower Supercharger, Hamster Wheel & Hamster, Energizer Bunny generating 1.21 gigawatts, Mr. Fusion® Home Energy Reactor, hover conversion and a sextant celestial navigation system (The original GPS)
Best 1/4: 1,320 nanoseconds @ 670,616,629.2 miles per hour

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I fiddled around with my motorized telescope and what photography equipment I have yesterday and tried to see how recording a time-lapse of the eclipse would work. I think what I have will do the job, though if someone has a DSLR (I do not, unfortunately) it might work better than trying to shoot through an eyepiece. I should probably go and buy one of my own but I have a lot of research to do before making a decision. Anyway...

I chatted a bit with 97CatMan this morning and told him about the meet-up and it piqued his interest. So there may be another +1 for the event coming soon.

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I have a DSLR and experience shooting time lapses I'll look into what it takes to shoot an eclipse.

If you'd like to talk DSLRs Brandon you could bounce ideas off of me.

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Best 1/4: 1,320 nanoseconds @ 670,616,629.2 miles per hour

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Hmm... I may send you a PM in the near future. I should familiarize myself with the basics before then though, I think.

I've only had this motorized scope for a few months and have used it a handful of times. It will automatically align itself to the sky and auto-track a desired object if there are at least three stars you can center in the field of view, but during the day that's not a luxury I'll have. I should get some practice on equatorial alignment first since all that I'd need to do in that regard would be ensure I keep the sidereal slew engaged - that will be the easiest way to guarantee good tracking for creating a video from a series of exposures where the object of focus doesn't move or rotate in the field of view.

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