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post #31 of 47 (permalink) Old 07-24-2012, 01:24 PM
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Super.....now what? Any way other than having it done again? Guess I should have looked into that before the tune.........
Just shift about 500 rpms after peak power (6300), and you'll be fine.

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I never did post the latest dyno graph in this thread, so here it is. Only change was the intake "modification" detailed here: Cobra Mark VIII Intake

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~20rwhp and ~25rwtq with a Cobra intake! SWEEEEEEET!

I know you put a lot of time & hard work into that intake and it's nice to see you got some well-deserved payback from it!!!

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My most recent. 93 octane tune...I think. Done with a full tank of premium. I got a regular 87 and premium 93 tune.


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So I dyno'd mine tonight at work during training on the mustang dyno after breaking it in on a 7.3 ford diesel, a Taurus rental car, and a 6.0 chevy 1500hd, anyway 196hp/216tq were my numbers the guy said it would be more like 225-230hp on a DynoJet since they don't have a built in Eddy Brake They also kept saying that gears and tire size make a difference too I don't know which way up or down each correspond. I was hoping for high 200's like 250 or better but honestly I don't really care what the machine says. The DOHC is a complete blast on the road and autocross events.

I might try to run it this winter with new plugs and under drives and see if I can break the 200 mark. I was hoping for more, but with stock exhaust manifolds/cats, and the ported gen1 intake I'm not that surprised. What I feel I really need is a better intake manifold and exhaust to let my cams breathe better.

I also ran a simulated 1/4 mile 15.22 with a reaction time of .23 and a 60ft of 2.2 which was the fastest run of everything we messed with. I don't know if that's good or not. If I could do better I'll shoot for better next time since we are doing a lot of training until we get a handle of the equipment.

As far as the graph I don't know if it saved or how to export it yet since this was literally day 1 of dyno training. If it did save I'll find out how to export it and post it.

Weather today was in the low 90's and raining. I'm not sure how much that matters either. It's all still new, foreign, and exciting to me right now. My only confidence booster is that out of everything I had the fastest simulated ET and when I let it rip I was the only one to chirp tires on the dyno during my shifts.

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I think you have a little more in there stock.. My car did 226 hp don't remember the torque with stock gen 2 intake, stock manifolds with gutted cat. On triangle speed shops mustang dyno

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New numbers 227hp/241tq I made a few adjustments to the tune, changed the plugs, timing, tires, colder air, adjusted shift points and gave it hell. Those numbers were done on the mustang dyno at my work. I'm a little happier now. Still through stock cats, including the drivers side manifold/cat from the Mark VIII. Later that night I ran my new track times.

My RT and 60 need work, I know I've got more in it.

14.512 @ 96.03 1/4 mile. 11/2012.

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New numbers 227hp/241tq I made a few adjustments to the tune, changed the plugs, timing, tires, colder air, adjusted shift points and gave it hell. Those numbers were done on the mustang dyno at my work. I'm a little happier now. Still through stock cats, including the drivers side manifold/cat from the Mark VIII. Later that night I ran my new track times.

My RT and 60 need work, I know I've got more in it.

14.512 @ 96.03 1/4 mile. 11/2012.
Can we get a pic of the graph? I personally am a pic person! lol

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Can we get a pic of the graph? I personally am a pic person! lol
Still working on that. I need to learn how to cut the graph, pull up saved pulls, etc... With all the work we've had lately I haven't had much time to play with the saving/smoothing/trimming/printing side of the graphs.

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The flattest power "curve" you'll ever see. LOL



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We'll is say that's the highest svo car out there , u can tell by the graph the blower is outta air on the top end as it's pretty flat from 5200- on also boost is 13.1 on the hit and is down to 11 by end of pull I can lean it out about 5 percent and make another 10 hp or so

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Sounds good. Thanks so much Rob.

Dan also suggested switching some of the vacuum hoses under the hood I'll have to show you. Not really sure what they're called. You may know what he's talking about.

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We'll is say that's the highest svo car out there , u can tell by the graph the blower is outta air on the top end as it's pretty flat from 5200- on also boost is 13.1 on the hit and is down to 11 by end of pull I can lean it out about 5 percent and make another 10 hp or so

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He could have it ported by Stiegemeier, it would keep up then yes?

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IMHO. Not worth the effort.

At this point I'd sell it before porting it and upgrade to a Tork-Tech or a Vortech.

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If u compare the power gains on the low end from old graph to new graph it's a ton more power, this blower will never keep up with heads, a port want help to much either u figure it's dropping over. 2 pounds of boost, we can spin it harder and torque will go up and power will gain slowly me leaning it out will help the most

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No pressure! lol

I guess I'll get an updated dyno graph after this coming Friday when I get paid. I gotta fix my odometer now.

This gas tune printout will have to do for the time being. I personally think that this tune needs some work. It runs the best when I don't change the timing any, but as soon as I make a minute change of the timing with the hand held to stop detonation below 2K, it runs like total dog crap.


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