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post #271 of 652 (permalink) Old 05-23-2014, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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Well the air dam hasn't ripped off yet, though I have heard a few audible scrapes here and there



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Your car sits perfectly and those 17x9s fill out the fender wells just right. Hopefully I can get mine lowered and the hub swap done soon so mine can look similar (going with some 17x9 Cobra Rs).

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Look cool


Seriously though, air is supposed to get deflected to the rectangular vents on the bottom of the bumper cover, and unlike early SCs that are the same way, 94/5 Cougars used this narrow rubber flap at the very bottom of the bumper(where it mounts to the core support) so theoretically this air dam should maximize airflow to the rad/condenser/tranny coolers since it's a bit wider and deeper than the SC one to boot. Plus I like how it looks, sue me lol

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Your car sits perfectly and those 17x9s fill out the fender wells just right. Hopefully I can get mine lowered and the hub swap done soon so mine can look similar (going with some 17x9 Cobra Rs).
Thanks! It took some tweaking to my springs to get the stance I wanted. 17s are kind of a pain to get looking right on these cars since tires are limited and big sidewalls spoil the look(IMO). I'd like to go to 18s eventually, or maybe even staggered diameters(17" front 18" back) since I think the front end is proportioned PERFECTLY for 17s, while in the back they look kinda puny.

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Looks good Matt . And I bet the temp will be a fit lower , Had the same on the SC and it helped greatly.
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Seriously though, air is supposed to get deflected to the rectangular vents on the bottom of the bumper cover, and unlike early SCs that are the same way, 94/5 Cougars used this narrow rubber flap at the very bottom of the bumper(where it mounts to the core support) so theoretically this air dam should maximize airflow to the rad/condenser/tranny coolers since it's a bit wider and deeper than the SC one to boot. Plus I like how it looks, sue me lol



Thanks! It took some tweaking to my springs to get the stance I wanted. 17s are kind of a pain to get looking right on these cars since tires are limited and big sidewalls spoil the look(IMO). I'd like to go to 18s eventually, or maybe even staggered diameters(17" front 18" back) since I think the front end is proportioned PERFECTLY for 17s, while in the back they look kinda puny.
Any idea if the non-SC Birds were supposed to have an air dam? Mine doesn't have one so I really don't know if I need to find one or not. I need all the cooling assistance I can find down here in the south right now.

I've got the Vogtland 1.6" springs for mine so I hope it sits like yours, or close to it.

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Looks good Matt . And I bet the temp will be a fit lower , Had the same on the SC and it helped greatly.
Good to know! I've noticed my temp needle hovers a few mm more below the N than it used to the last few days on the highway (and it's been in the mid-high 80s). Could be placebo effect but I think it's doing the job. I'm UNdeleting A/C this summer so if it maintains temp with the air on I'll be very happy

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Any idea if the non-SC Birds were supposed to have an air dam? Mine doesn't have one so I really don't know if I need to find one or not. I need all the cooling assistance I can find down here in the south right now.

I've got the Vogtland 1.6" springs for mine so I hope it sits like yours, or close to it.
I really can't say for sure. I think 5.0s had the deflector mounted there as well. 94/5 Thunderbirds were heavily redesigned in that area and got an actual blended in deflector(the black piece riveted to the main body color bumper cover) they didn't have an actual protruding one though. I've seen people mount a Grand Am air dam to it too though, here's one http://www.mamn12.com/members/member_ID=10.html

My springs were 1.25"(advertised) drop before I cut them, and I took out about 3/4 of a coil so 1.6-1.75 seems about right. My car's got a bit of a rake to it so the front looks lower than it actually is.

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Ok, normally I don't base my decisions on public consensus, but considering I'd have to cut holes in my perfectly good bumper I'm having a hard time moving forward with this project... Yay or Nay?




Keep in mind I 100% wired the car for them already, from MFS to bulbs, so I wouldn't be tackling anything to adapt them at this point(in fact you could say I'm somewhat committed to them), and as some may know, 94/5 Bumper covers have the guide marks molded inside on where to drill/cut despite not having the cornering light option, so there would be no guess work as to mounting them either. So far the debate in my mind is...

Pro:

-I love the cornering lamp function

-I like the uniqueness

-I went to the trouble of wiring the MFS harness, dash harness and power distribution harness for them(but concurrently with lots of other stuff)

-They fill up a relatively dead space on the front overhang

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-The bezels were painted tricoat pearl white just as my car is but they aren't a 100% color match(but it's close as you can probably see)

-Even though I like that they fill up dead space, I also don't want it to look cluttered.


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I think it works because of all the other details you put in to your car. I don't think it looks cluttered especially with the color of you car. Also 4 Pro's will always beat 2 Con's lol, so it's an obvious Yay from me.

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Can I see this exact shot, but without the cornering light bezel there? I think that would help me make my decision?

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I vote no, you car looks amazing as is, adding those IMO will make it look way to "busy"

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You should be showing us completed pictures, Hurry up and get those on there.

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Well I think I'll be doing them. Worse case scenario I just get another bumper and paint it if I don't like them.

I'd put them in now but I seemed to have misplaced the speednuts for the inner mounting cages, so next weekend probably

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I say go for it but I'm never shy of cutting holes in pretty much anything plus I've been running side markers for years now.

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I vote YES!! Cornering lights on a 94-95 always seemed like a nice idea, I always wanted to do it, but never had the ambition to make it a reality...go for it, your car is amazing, this will make it more so.

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I'm not a super huge fan of the staggered deep dish look to be honest, and the SVE Anniversary replicas are a very loosely derived knock off of the OEM wheels when you look closely, when viewed from the side the spokes are convex rather than concave and just look totally different side by side(think Cragar SS vs. Torque Thrust II - similar, yet totally different). I have however had an idea in that ballpark, only with these for just the rear:http://www.americanmuscle.com/anthra....html#shop-by3... Keeping the 17x9s I currently have up front and using the much more accurate AM 18x10 non dished replicas out back for the rarely seen staggered diameter look(only MN12 I can think like that was Melon's old white/blue striped bird) but I'm leaning against it for a few reasons. Biggest of which is that I kinda want to do something completely different if I decide to shell out for any new wheels.

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From a safety standpoint it's a good idea..Since I assume your Cougar is your DD..

Aesthetically..It slightly ages your otherwise "updated" front end..


You already got the fog lights installed, and the cornering lights on hand..Ehhh just do the complete 91 XR7 front end..




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From that shot you won't even be able to see the cornering lights

Besides, the 94/5 front IS the 91 front end, sans molding and a different grille(of which I have the 91-93 one, rather than the Cutlass Ciera inspired 94/5 one), so I really don't think it'll look any more dated than it is. And if it does the 91 XR7 front end is my favorite of all the front ends used on these cars anyway, the body color grille is the only thing I don't want from it(smoked headlights make it stick out like a sore thumb).

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I just realized there was one aspect of the car I never messed with....until now!




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I just realized there was one aspect of the car I never messed with....until now!
You are such a dork.

Are those the GM recall specials?

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I just installed the TFS street burner intake manifold.
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Plus, my upper radiator hose is now 3 feet long.
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Hey, GM can make a horn! Every Hollywood movie or TV show from the 70s proves it, the horn will blare endlessly when the car is in a fatal crash!

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Hey, GM can make a horn! Every Hollywood movie or TV show from the 70s proves it, the horn will blare endlessly when the car is in a fatal crash!
Hmmm, planning something dramatic?

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