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thats the OEM 5.0 cam?

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It's Alive, and sounds smooth as Fuck!

I love it, Ox; that kicks ass!

Congratulations; No one can reach you the water! (german idiom)



If it were me, I'd call it the "CoyoteBird", and go with a Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote airbrush/trim detail; the Coyote finally Caught his Bird.

Also, Maybe a roadrunner head disappearing onto the intake, and some claw marks, lol.

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Amazing build! Can't wait to see it out on the road!

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It's Alive, and sounds smooth as Fuck!

I love it, Ox; that kicks ass!

Congratulations; No one can reach you the water! (german idiom)



If it were me, I'd call it the "CoyoteBird", and go with a Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote airbrush/trim detail; the Coyote finally Caught his Bird.

Also, Maybe a roadrunner head disappearing onto the intake, and some claw marks, lol.


While I like where you're going, has Wile E Coyote touched ANYTHING that hasn't immediately blown up? Keep him AWAY from the car at all costs!

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Congratulations; No one can reach you the water! (german idiom)


i wonder what do you know about deutschem sprach gebrauch is just not quite there yet
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While I like where you're going, has Wile E Coyote touched ANYTHING that hasn't immediately blown up? Keep him AWAY from the car at all costs!
You know, I didn't really think of it that way; not so good.

ACME as a vanity plate, not so good.

Although, Ox knows better than to listen to me anyway.

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i wonder what do you know about deutschem sprach gebrauch is just not quite there yet
I don't speak german at all; I had a long conversation with one of my german friends about idioms, and that was one of the best.

Unless it was "Don't play the offended liver sausage!"



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Hey Oxman. On my 2 valve with kooks, I am able to pull the motor with the headers bolted on. It looks like you have the same clearance, but I just wanted to ask- can you pull your motor in and out with the headers bolted on?

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Hey Oxman. On my 2 valve with kooks, I am able to pull the motor with the headers bolted on. It looks like you have the same clearance, but I just wanted to ask- can you pull your motor in and out with the headers bolted on?
No you have to take the headers off for a motor pull out. With the headers on, I could drop it from the bottom.

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I made my own bracket to mount the pedal, a piece of scrap aluminum.









Wiring:

So I'm using the Coyote Control Pack. If you buy a complete engine with the wiring harness, and you are good with wiring...have fun. haha I paid extra for the control pack because I'm stupid when it comes to wiring.

PDB mounted on the passenger side kick panel



This was taken a couple weeks ago, everything is working but the fuel gauge, have to dial in the ohm's to work correctly. Still going to keep the bottom dash lights, Autometer sells the twist sockets that fit perfectly. Gotta find them cheap though. They are $10 a pop new.



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So right now I have temporarily put some 2.5" flex pipe for the down tubes until I can go to a exhaust shop to have the permanent fix. The exhaust is mid length kooks, dual 2.5", x-pipe and magnaflow mufflers at the rear.

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So my problem right now, every time I create a tune and load it to the car I get a no start condition. If I load the stock tune back to the car she will fire right up. So working with SCT and couple guys on the forums to help me out.

That is about it, I have been able to drive the car around on low RPMs. I've been babying the shit out of it. Took it out on the highway and drives ok. So far I have clocked 70 miles on the set up.

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Not using the engine cover anymore, because it does not fit when you close the hood. Sucks, really wanted to keep it on there.



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I was wondering what wheels you were going to go with, love the track packs on it!

This build thread really puts all of ours to shame, talk about getting it done. Overachiever
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Speak for yourself buddy. LOL. Yes, Oxman has been putting on a good show for many years now - it would have to be something good to top his last setup anyways.

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I haven't driven this car in almost 5 years, since the 2011 SC/XR7 Shoot Out in Ohio. Last year it was all test and tune crap with the Tork Tech set up, I never really got to enjoy the car. The 70 miles I put on the car in the past couple weeks I actually have drivability and I can play with it a little. I had to be a overachiever on this one, haha or a over-charger. My credit card is not paid off yet. I live on a busy road and I see muscle cars, sports cars and everything drive by my house while my bird is sitting on jacks the past few years. I spent ALOT of time staying up until 3am in the morning and getting up at 7am the same morning to start working on it again this past winter, spring and summer. So happy to have thing up and running again. I love all the project threads on here. Always learning something new from you guys about the good ole MN12.
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I love all the project threads on here. Always learning something new from you guys about the good ole MN12.
I think we all learned something from you Josh on this, that it can be done!

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Way to go!

The satisfaction of putting this together yourself is priceless isn't it??

I hope you get to enjoy this car, as much as possible!!







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I haven't driven this car in almost 5 years, since the 2011 SC/XR7 Shoot Out in Ohio. Last year it was all test and tune crap with the Tork Tech set up, I never really got to enjoy the car. The 70 miles I put on the car in the past couple weeks I actually have drivability and I can play with it a little. I had to be a overachiever on this one, haha or a over-charger. My credit card is not paid off yet. I live on a busy road and I see muscle cars, sports cars and everything drive by my house while my bird is sitting on jacks the past few years. I spent ALOT of time staying up until 3am in the morning and getting up at 7am the same morning to start working on it again this past winter, spring and summer. So happy to have thing up and running again. I love all the project threads on here. Always learning something new from you guys about the good ole MN12.
That's great! I did sense your frustration during the Tork Tech era of your car when we spoke at the midwest bash a few summers ago, I can tell just from each update you're enjoying it much more this time around.

And being downed for a build sucks, it's like suddenly the roads get littered with cool looking/loud/fast cars, just out to taunt you! lol
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Sweet. She's so close to being fully done. With your sct issues, any desire to go get a dyno tune done? I know it's more cash money but maybe a good local guy can fix or find out what's wrong.

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Yea there's a couple guys in Illinois that I might take the car to. That would be local to me, because there is no one in Wisconsin I'd trust with SCT stuff.

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They would both be a little bit of a hike, but you might look at Blue Oval Performance in Indy or Pauls High Performance in Detroit.
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Yea there's a couple guys in Illinois that I might take the car to. That would be local to me, because there is no one in Wisconsin I'd trust with SCT stuff.
Not sure how inclined to drive to St, Paul, MN you are, should only be about 4.5 hours from you. But I hear good things about MAPerformance. https://www.maperformance.com/
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How about one of the best tuners in the atlantic region. Dynotuned Performance in Virginia Beach, VA. Dtpracing.net

People drive from Washington state to get dyno tunes from Brent. He tuned the manual swap on my Cougar, and it's a monster.
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Glad to see she's running! I love those wheels on there! If you are using the 4r75e trans, how are you controlling it? I thought the frpp control kit was for manual trans only? Using a standalone tcm? I would love to do this swap!
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Congrats Josh!

Get her dialed in! I love the wet and wild shot. Great lookin' car with those rims!
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Glad to see she's running! I love those wheels on there! If you are using the 4r75e trans, how are you controlling it? I thought the frpp control kit was for manual trans only? Using a standalone tcm? I would love to do this swap!
Thanks! Right now I have a MVB from Lentech. So far this is a trial period with the set up. I'm trying to wire the light indicator for the switch when the lock the TC and OD. If I don't like it I'll either swap a manual transmission or a 6R80 from a newer Mustang this winter.

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I like the thought of having to Turn On OD.

It won't kill anything if you forget to turn off the TC; It comes out of lock anyway when it shifts to first (or reverse).


I've driven Lazarus for two years now with the TC clutch stuck; I'll either break it, of finish the one in my shop and get it installed before it breaks.

It seems to be thew circuit with checkball 9, but it's fine.

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From what I understand from the Cobra and Coyote Fox guys they are wiring both OD and TC lock up on the same switch. When you shift it's basically 1-2-3 and switch on OD/TC with no power. If you apply power while turning on the OD/TC you risk damage. You also have to down shift from 3-2 or the car will stall out, just like a manual if you leave it in 3rd coming to a stop.

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I have had buddies with manual VB's in project cars before, and they all tend to get tired of messing with it. Everyone is different though. Having a manual VB would motivate my desire to have just a full manual transmission.

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Missed a few comments, sorry.

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how much higher is the boss intake going to take him? curious if a cervini mach 1 hood would fit over it
The boss is higher, I have a 3" cowl so I bet I'd clear a Boss as well.

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The build is looking great Josh. The motor fits nicely in there. Do you have abs on the car? I'm curious what side you're going to put the air filter .

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No ABS. Filter is on the driver side with a mutilated GT500 air box to fit perfectly. Cold air should pass over/under the driver headlight. Little bit of heat shielding from the back by the MAF housing.

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thats the OEM 5.0 cam?
It's a stock 2013 Mustang GT 5.0

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I have had buddies with manual VB's in project cars before, and they all tend to get tired of messing with it. Everyone is different though. Having a manual VB would motivate my desire to have just a full manual transmission.
I love driving manual and I'm considering it this winter. If I do I'll upgrade the half shafts. Lots of work, I'll have to see how the rest of the year goes with the MVB.





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Power steering: I'm having the worst luck with my power steering. I fix a leak, replace the rack, replace a line, replace a line and now the reservoir cracks. Ok cool. I replaced it with a Moroso unit, no cracks. But with my luck it will probably melt away IDK. I like it, a little engine dress up.



Battery trunk switch! Doesn't work for some reason, Hmmm?



I was able to find a black clean looking ON/OFF 12V switch for the OD. Looks pretty stock-clean.

Also the red button on top of the Hurst handle, any guesses what it's wired up to?



Wheels & Tires: So I sold off my stock Mustang track pack wheels. Why? because they were all 19x9 and I wanted to buy a 19x10 for the rear for the wider tire. You can't sell two and buy two because the color is not the same. Sell all four! I found out that the aftermarket track pack wheels are 3 pounds lighter then stock. Saved 12 pounds!

I have a 1" spacer in front and a 1/8" in the rear to clear the parking brake cable. Honestly I could zip tie the cable and lose the spacer I guess. The front is a 255/30 and rear is a 295/30. I went with HANKOOK VENTUS V12. Nothing super great, good overall tire for summer and dry fun so it will do the job. Safe for wet day heading home if I get caught in the rain.

Aftermarket left, stock right. The wheel cap stickers are from ClintD. 5 for $15. Send him a PM.



Front with 1" spacer, not too bad





Rear



Lastly, working on little things. To name a few: Wire up gauge lights / clean up harness, Exhaust down pipes, Radio, smaller interior touches, Battery off switch and a couple other things.

This winter is body work and a possible paint job. Pink.
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Huh, aftermarket stepped up their game, replicas always used to weigh more than factory equivalents. Glad you stuck with the Track pack style, my heart initially sank reading you sold them. I think those may be my favorite wheel yet on 96-97s, they match the body lines perfect. Is the front spacer to clear the calipers or is it something else?

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It was for the rubbing issue on the strut bar.

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