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Post your brake setup and give other members an idea for better braking power.




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  • 1994 Cougar XR7, factory ABS and 4 wheel disc
  • Type of Caliper: Front - Cobra PBR with 40mm pistons, Rear - stock vargas
  • Pads: Front - OEM Cobra pads, Rear - Duralast Gold
  • Rotors: Front - OEM Cobra, Rear - redrilled OEM
  • Brake lines: Stock
  • Brake fluid: Valvoline Dot 3/4
  • Night and day difference over the 10" brakes. Feel could be a bit better but SS lines should solve that



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* Stock ABS system
* SS lines: Classic Tube via SpinningWheels-SC (slightly better deal)
* Fluid: ATE Super Blue DOT4

Front:
* PBR Dual Piston Mustang GT Calipers - remanufactured from A1 Cardone via Rockauto
* Rotors: Brembos OEM. stock size via Rockauto
* Pads: Porterfield R4-e carbon-kevlar endurance compound (cost as much as the entire conversion w/o the SS lines). You can get a deal from porterfield with a NASA member number.
* SS lines: Classic Tube via SpinningWheels-SC (slightly better deal)

Rear:
* Calipers: stock
* Rotors: stock. whatever came with the car
* Pads: Warner Severe Duty Fleet via rockauto
* SS lines: Classic Tube via SpinningWheels-SC (slightly better deal)

Impression:
* Selection represents the best value for this platform with the exception of the stupidly expensive pads. After 2 whole days of racing, we have 60% of our pads left on the front. I'd probably consider Carbotech RP2 endurance compound (roughly same price at ~$175-200). I've heard they last through more heat cycles than the Porterfields (we'll find out after our next race).
* Significantly better braking over stock (distances and feel).
* We could out brake the majority of the 24 Hours of Lemons field (too bad we didn't have much power to do anything about it at the end of the corner).
* We didn't experience a single instance of brake fade on our track test day (3 hours of having the car constantly on the track) or in our first race (14 hours of on track time on a twisty course -- Sears Point).
* Only cons: these pads make a crazy amount of dust and don't work so well until they get warmed up (not an issue on the track but not necessarily a good idea for a DD). I'd probably go with Warner Severe Duty Fleet pads for ~$35 for a daily driver. Other folks with heavy cars (Crown vics, etc) recommended these pads for Lemons racing. They are our backups.










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Cross-drilled and slotted rotors (I think those came from KVR)
Classic tube SS brake hoses
Valvoline Synthetic DOT 3/4 fluid
B&M Line locks on Front Brakes
Non-ABS Master Cylinder Assembly

It stops pretty darn quick.



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• 1995 Ford Thunderbird LX V8
•1999 Ford Mustang GT Dual Piston (PBR) Calipers
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Front:
13" one piece cross drilled rotor cadmium plated
Wilwood 4 piston calipers
Wilwood Bp-20 "smart" pads
custom caliper brackets
-3 brake lines
Super Blue racing brake fluid

Rear:
stock size rotor cross drilled cadmium plated
stock calipers
KVR "carbon fiber" semi-metallic pads
-3 brake lines
super blue racing brake fluid

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okay, picture stock looking brakes, front disk, drum in the rear.
Now, take off roughly 1200lbs from said car.

There's my better brakes.

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94 LX
Front: 13" rotors, PBR 2 piston aluminum calipers
Rear: 90 SC rear disk brakes, Brake Performance rotors
Classic Tube SS brake lines front and rear.




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Brake Test Results

The other day I had to have my 94 LX inspected here in Utah so I could get my plates/tags and they did this brake test I've never seen before where they pull the car up onto a machine and slam on the brakes and it analyzes data from the stop. I thought it was pretty interesting although I don't know how accurate it is.

Here is the paperwork they gave me on it, doesn't look bad considering the front rotors are at minimum thickness and need to be replaced. Looks like it was pulling to the right just a hair in the front.


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The other day I had to have my 94 LX inspected here in Utah so I could get my plates/tags and they did this brake test I've never seen before where they pull the car up onto a machine and slam on the brakes and it analyzes data from the stop. I thought it was pretty interesting although I don't know how accurate it is.

Here is the paperwork they gave me on it, doesn't look bad considering the front rotors are at minimum thickness and need to be replaced. Looks like it was pulling to the right just a hair in the front.

Fascinating, Kelly.
I've always seen brakes rated on stopping distance from 60MPH (typically in feet).
I wonder if one could calculate that based on this data and then extrapolate for different vehicle weights.

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Get pics later. Forgot em the other day after the upgrade.

* 95 T-Bird (factory drum rear brakes)
* None ABS
* 01 Mustang GT PBR calipers in front and Mark8 calipers Rear
* Motorcraft pads front/rear
* Motorcraft rotors front/rear
* Wagner rubber brake lines
* Dot 3 brake fluid (completely flushed)

Hugh difference over my stock set up. Feels like I cut my stopping distance in 1/2 lol. Highly recommend this upgrade for a drum equipped car if your on a budget...
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Get pics later. Forgot em the other day after the upgrade.

* 95 T-Bird (factory drum rear brakes)
* None ABS
* 01 Mustang GT PBR calipers in front and Mark8 calipers Rear
* Motorcraft pads front/rear
* Motorcraft rotors front/rear
* Wagner rubber brake lines
* Dot 3 brake fluid (completely flushed)

Hugh difference over my stock set up. Feels like I cut my stopping distance in 1/2 lol. Highly recommend this upgrade for a drum equipped car if your on a budget...
The difference after my brake upgrades is like night and day. Now I'm used to driving the LX with the better brakes and no ABS then I jump in the 90 SC with stock brakes and ABS and I have come close to hitting a few people. When I drive the SC I have to keep reminding myself I can't stop as fast.

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Fascinating, Kelly.
I've always seen brakes rated on stopping distance from 60MPH (typically in feet).
I wonder if one could calculate that based on this data and then extrapolate for different vehicle weights.

Hrm.
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It may be possible Gunn, I'll have to leave that to the mathematicians though. I think the problem is there is no speed or distance references in the data. Only deceleration and weight to go by from what I can see.

Just FYI: This report came from Jiffy Lube so accuracy is probably questionable. The reason why I take my cars to Jiffy Lube for state inspections is they don't do any major repairs so they don't look too closely. Example: On the LX to pass inspection they made me buy a set of wiper blades because one was ripped on the end about an inch but failed to say anything about the 2 small cracks in the windshield, one headlight wasn't working (wiring problem with the socket) and the rear window 3rd brake light wasn't working. All of those things would have made it fail inspection but were not things they could have fixed right there.

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racecougar...Did you cut out the fender well, or is it just for the picture...Buy the way, I like that oil relocate.
Thanks. The front portion of the fender liners were trimmed equally on both sides. You can see that a section remains in place at the edge of the bumper cover in the picture above, and that the rear section also remains in this picture.


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Front: Mustang Cobra Two Piston Calipers
- 13" Slotted and Cross-drilled Rotors
- Ceramic Pads
Rear Calipers: Stock Single Piston rear calipers
- 11.65" Cobra rotors
- Wearever gold pads

Brake Lines: Stainless Steel StopFlex lines all four corners.
Fluid: ATE SuperBlue DOT 4 Racing Fluid
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