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post #31 of 48 (permalink) Old 03-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Is it normal for a '95 to have 3 keys? One opens the doors, one opens the trunk, and one starts the car. When I had a '93 I only had 2 keys but the door key also opened the trunk.

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since we are on the subject, where can i get the black plastic piece that fits over the key "head"? i dropped my keys once and the plastic piece broke into like four pieces

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I installed a 2000 Taurus lock cylinder in my '95 Mustang. It used 8 or 9 cuts, I think. It took 2 cylinders to gather the necessary pins. They are numbered and I swapped them around until it worked with my factory door key.

It is best to keep the ignition cylinder matching the vin in case of total loss of keys. Like it was said there are 5 different cuts for the older models. You can try your factory key in each one 'til it works!
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Just take the old key and the new key to the lock smith. He can cut one side for the door and one side for the ignition. My guy then cut a notch in the key so I can tell which side must be up to work.

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I've never thought of this. I can get one key for my 2 cars this way.......

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Ya u still need to get the key cut take to key and the lock to your local Ford dealer and go to the quick lane department and tell them what is going on and show them the key and lock and have your VIN number to so they can see if the lock is original cut pattren or if it is a dsifferant cut pattren. Try that.

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Ya u still need to get the key cut take to key and the lock to your local Ford dealer and go to the quick lane department and tell them what is going on and show them the key and lock and have your VIN number to so they can see if the lock is original cut pattren or if it is a dsifferant cut pattren. Try that.

maybe 10 years ago, ford now no longer has keycodes for 98 and older, you need to see the parts dept, not the useless quicklane or service dept. vins are pretty much a waste of time as well

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JK69cat I have worked at a Ford Dealership the still use codes for to cut the key and the code if I am not mistaken its the VIN number.

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JK69cat I have worked at a Ford Dealership the still use codes for to cut the key and the code if I am not mistaken its the VIN number.
i am a assistant pm at a ford l&m dealer and i am telling you, 98+ thats it and even 98 is questionable, yes the vin is required butit does not matter for these old rats we play with

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sorry haven't worked at the dealership in over 3 years sorry.

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Hey jk69cat do u know much bout the Thunderbird Turbo Coupes I just got one and am wanted to learn some stuff bout the car. Can u help me. Sorry bout that last post I not good with typing Its still new to me this forums thing sorry.

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i dont know much about the turbo coupes

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I know this tread is a year out of date, I am a Locksmith, have been for almost 30 years, I just read most of this thread and wow, I cant belive how much incorrect information is being passed around about a simple thing as keys for a car.

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So, will you be sharing your wisdom, or just pointing out how wrong everybody is without backing up your information?
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post #45 of 48 (permalink) Old 09-12-2011, 08:52 PM
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Still no one has corrected this thread?

You buy a new ignition lock insert from the dealer....it comes with two keys, which are cut only for the ignition lock portion. You take your new key and the old key and take it in to a COMPETENT lock smith, who will ONLY CUT the new uncut portion of the new keys to match the key for the old door locks.

If he does it properly, on both sides, you will have one key that works both ways.....and for both doors.....unless of course you have a green door on the passenger side.....and they are never good luck.....!

Did this with a 92 Vic. That's how it works!!!! Simple.

If you have codes, I have proper code books and cutters......but I don't want to get into the key biz! Detective work required to get codes!

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Just to note. And this may longer be the case on the newer cars. You used to be able to take a Ford Key blank. Cut one side of the blank for one car. And then cut the other side of the blank for a different car. One key would work in either vehicle. I know this worked up until 1995 or so.

I live close to a mall so I'm on call 24/7 whenever a family member or friend locks their keys in the car or needs a jump. After a buddy that lives a half hour away locked their keys in the car for the third time I dragged him into Home Depot and handed the guy both of our keys and had him cut a pair of blanks with one car on either side. The next time he locked his keys in the car it only took me five minutes to run over and unlock the car vs a hour round trip. This also came in handy when he sold the car to a buddy and HE locked the keys in the car on a road trip a couple of hundred miles from home. I made the day when I chuckled and reached in my pocket and unlocked the car. Beats carrying a ring full of keys. Obviously this won't work with PATS keys on the later cars. And I'm not sure it works with the keys after 1995.

Something I'm going to revisit once I get my locks sorted out.

Now if they only made RKE transmitter fobs with a A/B switch.....
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Still the same!

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Yes, you can still cut the two sides of the PATS keys to GET INTO two different late model cars. Most likely, only one car will start. BUT, you stand a great chance of being able to program your new two sided key to act as a spare for your buddies car.....so you can get in AND start it!

I took an old 10 position key, non-PATS and cut it for my 2001 Truck which is PATS. It won't start the truck, but if I get locked out, which has happened(!), I can still get back in.....and then I use my regular key once I find it...usually sittin on the seat!

You can buy blanks made of nylon also....or "credit card" keys of plastic that you can cut...and carry like a credit card. Won't start new PATS cars, but will start an old one!

I had cut my keys for years with two sides, to get into two different Merc's! Notched it to keep track.......

You CAN do this with trunk keys too!!! Two different cars on one key!!!

Not sure about the RKE keys...toooo newwww for me!

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I've never seen a cheap lock design that read both sides of the key. Ford R cheap, lol.

Although, You Could actually program the same key into two pats systems... as long as it was a pats key.

Cut sides for both cars, then add it to the eec; On Both Cars.

There's a process...

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