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Did you see the thread about the manual steering? (Steering was on your list...)

I've seriously been considering it; I'd hotwire the variable system if it wouldn't melt, lol.

Thoughts?

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Did you see the thread about the manual steering? (Steering was on your list...)

I've seriously been considering it; I'd hotwire the variable system if it wouldn't melt, lol.

Thoughts?
I wasn't gonna modify the steering, I just wanted to get it nice and tight like when it wasn't so old, lol.
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Did you see the thread about the manual steering? (Steering was on your list...)

I've seriously been considering it; I'd hotwire the variable system if it wouldn't melt, lol.

Thoughts?
I've been considering it lately too but the cost of the Flaming River racks are ludicrous and you have to supply tie rods(inner and outer) and a matching Flaming River U joint. I'd really like to drive an MN12 with it before I'd shell out the $500 or so it would cost when everything's said and done, I don't mind the slower ratio(I'd prefer great road feel and and extra turns to numbness and less turns anyday)but the effort part has so much conflicting experiences that I don't trust a word of it anymore, especially since I run 255s up front, and don't plan on going any less than 245s in the future.

An adjustable EVO module would be sweet. Max assist under 5 mph and "off" anywhere past it

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I wonder if anyone's tried to reprogram the EVO on our cars...

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I've been considering it lately too but the cost of the Flaming River racks are ludicrous and you have to supply tie rods(inner and outer) and a matching Flaming River U joint. I'd really like to drive an MN12 with it before I'd shell out the $500 or so it would cost when everything's said and done, I don't mind the slower ratio(I'd prefer great road feel and and extra turns to numbness and less turns anyday)but the effort part has so much conflicting experiences that I don't trust a word of it anymore, especially since I run 255s up front, and don't plan on going any less than 245s in the future.

An adjustable EVO module would be sweet. Max assist under 5 mph and "off" anywhere past it
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I wonder if anyone's tried to reprogram evo on our cars...
Maybe replace the evo computer or rig up an adjustable switch or knob similar to what the lincoln town cars got from the factory.

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Maybe replace the evo computer or rig up an adjustable switch or knob similar to what the lincoln town cars got from the factory.
Town cars got adjustable EVO? hmmm... Might have to go yard hopping soon

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Town cars got adjustable EVO? hmmm... Might have to go yard hopping soon
Yes, I personally have no experience with it, I just know its a sliding lever for adjustable steering effort.

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I don't have an evo box; I know the solenoid is pwm, and if the box goes bad it smokes the solenoid.

There would be a circuit that reads the VSS signal, and decides what to do.

We could re program it, with an effort to ID the circuitry.

There's also a sensor that reads steering input, and I'd bet braking comes into it as well.

If someone posted really good pix of both sides of a 96 EVO box, I have the wiring book, I could look at the circuitry.

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This is a 94 module(not sure if it's the same for 96)



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This is a 94 module(not sure if it's the same for 96)
The 96-97 MN12's used a different EVO Module..

Rather than it being mounted in the trunk like before (89-95)...It was moved under the heater blower motor case..

No..I don't have any close-up pics..




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I knew that, but that's not to say the circuit changed
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Steering Diagrams

Maybe this will help..


1994 MN12 Steering Diagram



1997 MN12 Steering Diagram






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This helps more



(96 EVTM left, 94 EVTM right)

Note the connector. I guarantee all that changed on the module in 96 was the outer case for the mounting.

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I guarantee all that changed on the module in 96 was the outer case for the mounting.
The 89-95 EVO Modules did use a different case with different mounting points compared to the 96-97 EVO Modules..

So you could be right..The guts could be very similar..

Only way we'll ever know is if someone cracks one of the 96-97 EVO Modules open, and gets some gut shots of it..

I just posted the diagrams in case you guys need them to make some sort of "hybrid" EVO Module..

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This seemed appropriate here, since you don't have an "official" build thread..









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I know this is an older thread but what main and rod bearings did you use?
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This seemed appropriate here, since you don't have an "official" build thread..

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How many of us does this apply to, though?

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I can't believe he hasn't edited all the random BS we put in his thread, lol.

I think all of his time and interest has shifted to frame and body work; I have no idea what Her name is.


Rayo, there is a Pantera sitting at the entrance to my "Subdivision" completely glassless, that I've watched rust away over the last few years; it kills me.
What movie is that from? I remember that scene...

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Oops.

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i can't believe he hasn't edited all the random bs we put in his thread, lol.

I think all of his time and interest has shifted to frame and body work; i have no idea what her name is.

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This is an awesome post. Great pictures and notes and details. I barely have gotten thru the first page but will when I have more time.

Thanks again. This is such great information that is not even in some of the 4.6 articles I have read.

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Kill Bill II. That's not a Pantera though, that's a Mangusta


Don't feel bad Grog, I always just assumed it was a Pantera too..

That's a shame, about the one near you rusting to pieces though..
I've always like the Pantera, and I guess the Mangusta too..lol
I used to frequently drive up to the Henry Ford Museum, and often seen a pair of Pantera's parked outside..






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