The definitive PI intake swap...all years 1876-1997 :) - TCCoA Forums

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
Moderator & Teksid Whore
Super Moderator
 
guitar maestro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Laredo, Texas
Age: 37
Posts: 11,923
Send a message via MSN to guitar maestro Send a message via Yahoo to guitar maestro
The definitive PI intake swap...all years 1876-1997 :)

looky here and scroll down

http://forums.tccoa.com/986-engine-performance/
guitar maestro is online now  
post #2 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 03:02 PM
Slightly Disjointed
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Age: 28
Posts: 15,402
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
lol

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #3 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 03:54 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
theterminator93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Avon Lake, Ohio
Age: 29
Posts: 8,637
Garage
You think they'll read that? Who's the real newb here?

-Brandon
97 Laser Red Thunderbird LX 155k, Stage 2 4.6L 2v N/A | 300 BHP (255 RWHP, 290 RWTQ) | 13.95 @ 97.58 | Build details | Pics at the Lorain Assembly plant
96 Ivory Mark VIII 233k, stock 4.6 32v on coils; New engine at 185k
Gone but not forgotten: 94 Cougar XR7, 93 Mark VIII

TCCoA's resident pilot since 2014
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the world with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return. -Leonardo da Vinci
theterminator93 is offline  
post #4 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
Moderator & Teksid Whore
Super Moderator
 
guitar maestro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Laredo, Texas
Age: 37
Posts: 11,923
Send a message via MSN to guitar maestro Send a message via Yahoo to guitar maestro
either that or they face Zod's firing squad...


Last edited by guitar maestro; 04-06-2013 at 04:03 PM.
guitar maestro is online now  
post #5 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 04:05 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
theterminator93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Avon Lake, Ohio
Age: 29
Posts: 8,637
Garage
I think more effective might be to have them suffer as they watch your car get pieced back together over the next 10 years.

-Brandon
97 Laser Red Thunderbird LX 155k, Stage 2 4.6L 2v N/A | 300 BHP (255 RWHP, 290 RWTQ) | 13.95 @ 97.58 | Build details | Pics at the Lorain Assembly plant
96 Ivory Mark VIII 233k, stock 4.6 32v on coils; New engine at 185k
Gone but not forgotten: 94 Cougar XR7, 93 Mark VIII

TCCoA's resident pilot since 2014
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the world with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return. -Leonardo da Vinci
theterminator93 is offline  
post #6 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
Moderator & Teksid Whore
Super Moderator
 
guitar maestro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Laredo, Texas
Age: 37
Posts: 11,923
Send a message via MSN to guitar maestro Send a message via Yahoo to guitar maestro
that's fine...just makes one more added to list of cars I need to whoop up on when the time comes...and it will be spectacular
guitar maestro is online now  
post #7 of 104 (permalink) Old 04-06-2013, 05:22 PM
Lightly Seasoned
 
Mike Shumard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Kingston Tn
Age: 54
Posts: 710
Garage
But I have a 1875, will this still apply? LOL, Take care
Mike Shumard is offline  
post #8 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:02 PM
1st Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 41
Intake manifold swap from '03 Police Interceptor

What will I need to do in order to swap the intake manifold (including fuel rail, injectors, throttle body, etc.) from an '03 4.6L Police Interceptor to a '95 T-Bird 4.6? I'm new to this stuff guys. I apologize ahead of time.

'95 "Black Widow" Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8
-Muffler/Resonator Delete
-Cold Air Intake (AutoZone plastic homemade)
-Magnum Crankcase Vent Filter (for looks)
-Accel Coil Packs -MSD Wires -Accel Spark Plugs
DD, nothing too special.
PerfTBird2012 is offline  
post #9 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:08 PM
2nd Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Sachse, tx
Posts: 70
Is the police interceptor supercharged? If not it would be just like a regular pi swap. Im still looking for a good egr pipe for mine. Search pi swap and there should be a link to the list.
lcortinas is offline  
post #10 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:12 PM
1st Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 41
Oh okay. And my next question is whether or not a Non-PI intake manifold from a '96-'00 will fit and give me anything worth doing?

'95 "Black Widow" Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8
-Muffler/Resonator Delete
-Cold Air Intake (AutoZone plastic homemade)
-Magnum Crankcase Vent Filter (for looks)
-Accel Coil Packs -MSD Wires -Accel Spark Plugs
DD, nothing too special.
PerfTBird2012 is offline  
post #11 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:19 PM
Seasoned Veteran Poster
 
rmfk13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lombard, IL
Age: 29
Posts: 871
Aye

Rob
2004 QSM Pontiac GTO 1 of 889 245,00 and counting
rmfk13 is offline  
post #12 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:23 PM
1st Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 41
I understand completely Rob. And I apologize. I'm 19 and trying to learn..

'95 "Black Widow" Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8
-Muffler/Resonator Delete
-Cold Air Intake (AutoZone plastic homemade)
-Magnum Crankcase Vent Filter (for looks)
-Accel Coil Packs -MSD Wires -Accel Spark Plugs
DD, nothing too special.
PerfTBird2012 is offline  
post #13 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:37 PM
Seasoned Veteran Poster
 
rmfk13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lombard, IL
Age: 29
Posts: 871
I think its explained in the tech articles section under the PI swap sections, one of the mods on this website should really make the tech articles easier to find. It's on the TCCOA home page under the tech articles or some ****

Rob
2004 QSM Pontiac GTO 1 of 889 245,00 and counting
rmfk13 is offline  
post #14 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 10:39 PM
1st Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 41
Okay. I didn't think to look under that tech article for non-PI manifold. I'll search some more.

'95 "Black Widow" Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8
-Muffler/Resonator Delete
-Cold Air Intake (AutoZone plastic homemade)
-Magnum Crankcase Vent Filter (for looks)
-Accel Coil Packs -MSD Wires -Accel Spark Plugs
DD, nothing too special.
PerfTBird2012 is offline  
post #15 of 104 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 11:43 PM Thread Starter
Moderator & Teksid Whore
Super Moderator
 
guitar maestro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Laredo, Texas
Age: 37
Posts: 11,923
Send a message via MSN to guitar maestro Send a message via Yahoo to guitar maestro
look at the sticky at the very top of this forum. There is one sticky that will stand out. It will answer all your questions.

Congratulations, first thread that gets to be merged with "it".
guitar maestro is online now  
post #16 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-08-2013, 08:54 AM
5th Gear Poster
 
TwoHaggard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 482
Garage
Intake swap

I'm doing a pi intake swap from a 04 explorer, I have a whole 04 engine but I'm going to wait to put it in and just going to swap intake into my 95 for now, I was wondering if the plenum and throttle body was any different from the 04 explorer then the 96/97 one people use, I also have a plenum and throttle body off a 96 mustang, is there any difference or any one I should choose to use?
I also have alot of stuff for the swap like a 96/97 egr that bolts to the plenum, I don't have the tube tho, would my 95 or the explorer one work?
For egr delete I would need a tune correct?
Thanks

P.i. intake,70mm tb, cai, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, Intrax 2in lowering springs, KYB front and back shocks n sturts,
Taylor 8mm Plug Wires, True Dual Exhaust No Cats 2.25in pipe alltheway back Mid mounted dual in / dual out Jones Powerflow muffler then ran out back to 16x3 chrome tips 93Mark8 Driveshaft, 1.25Rear sway bar, 4:10s, TrackLok, Rear Diff Cover Brace, Sc Wheels 235/60s, Jmodd, Air Bags in Springs,Rear strut Bar,17in Mirror Blk CobraRs, Sc L Brackets, rear torsional load brace, kmember-frame brace, weightloss program
TwoHaggard is offline  
post #17 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-08-2013, 12:12 PM
Converter Guy
 
dirtyd0g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: batavia,oh
Age: 39
Posts: 6,617
Send a message via Yahoo to dirtyd0g
Get the 96/97 egr tube from ford it isn't that expensive. You need quite a few 96/97 parts to do this such as throttle cable and bracket. Don't forget about the tube under the intake and the nipple behind the water pump. You need the air intake parts too. Go find a 96/97 4.6 car in a junkyard and take all the accessories to the intake but not the intake You need some electrical connectors too The wires will be short and a couple connections changed.
Alan

DirtyDog Performance.Com
Proud sponsor of the SC/XR7 Shootout and Joel Bender Memorial Nats

Please do not send me messages on forums they are too hard to keep up with and I don't check in very often anymore call me at 513 898-1580 or email me alan at dirtydogperformance.com
dirtyd0g is offline  
post #18 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-08-2013, 06:36 PM
5th Gear Poster
 
TwoHaggard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 482
Garage
I'm in need of 96+ thermostat housing with bolts, the tube under the intake and nipple behind water pump, and if you have a near new egr tube pm me with what you have, thanks

P.i. intake,70mm tb, cai, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, Intrax 2in lowering springs, KYB front and back shocks n sturts,
Taylor 8mm Plug Wires, True Dual Exhaust No Cats 2.25in pipe alltheway back Mid mounted dual in / dual out Jones Powerflow muffler then ran out back to 16x3 chrome tips 93Mark8 Driveshaft, 1.25Rear sway bar, 4:10s, TrackLok, Rear Diff Cover Brace, Sc Wheels 235/60s, Jmodd, Air Bags in Springs,Rear strut Bar,17in Mirror Blk CobraRs, Sc L Brackets, rear torsional load brace, kmember-frame brace, weightloss program
TwoHaggard is offline  
post #19 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 11:18 AM
5th Gear Poster
 
TwoHaggard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 482
Garage
I got everything at the yard yesterday exept that nipple behind the water pump.
I was wondering if the tube under intake car be used off the explorer or has to be 96+ bird? And I guess I'll just order that water pump nipple because it seems like you have to destroy it to get it out.
Is the part number for the nipple f75z-8555-aa ?

P.i. intake,70mm tb, cai, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, Intrax 2in lowering springs, KYB front and back shocks n sturts,
Taylor 8mm Plug Wires, True Dual Exhaust No Cats 2.25in pipe alltheway back Mid mounted dual in / dual out Jones Powerflow muffler then ran out back to 16x3 chrome tips 93Mark8 Driveshaft, 1.25Rear sway bar, 4:10s, TrackLok, Rear Diff Cover Brace, Sc Wheels 235/60s, Jmodd, Air Bags in Springs,Rear strut Bar,17in Mirror Blk CobraRs, Sc L Brackets, rear torsional load brace, kmember-frame brace, weightloss program
TwoHaggard is offline  
post #20 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 12:08 PM
Converter Guy
 
dirtyd0g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: batavia,oh
Age: 39
Posts: 6,617
Send a message via Yahoo to dirtyd0g
the nipple you want new anyway, most prefer the mustang tube, i have used the crown vic one as well.
Alan

DirtyDog Performance.Com
Proud sponsor of the SC/XR7 Shootout and Joel Bender Memorial Nats

Please do not send me messages on forums they are too hard to keep up with and I don't check in very often anymore call me at 513 898-1580 or email me alan at dirtydogperformance.com
dirtyd0g is offline  
post #21 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 01:04 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Chris_Murder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Posts: 5,390
Send a message via AIM to Chris_Murder
Personally I prefer the crown vic tube and ditching the satc cold lockout (heater cold auto on sensor)

-1996 Pearl White Thunderbird 4.6 Sport 4v with many mods:
Current Best: 13.583 @ 103.74 10/2014.
227hp/241tq measured on calibrated mustang dyno, tested at full vehicle simulation with inertia enabled, no number skewing.
-2001 White Ford F-250 Super Duty 6.8 V10, 4-door, 4x4, Limo Tint, BFG KO2's, Bilstein 7100 Remote Reservoir Race Bypass Shocks, 6" Spring lift, Kenwood Double Din, K&N Intake, FlowMaster Exhaust
Amber_Murder's Daily Driver.
-2005 White GMC Sierra 3500 6.6 Duramax, Dually, 4-door, 4x4, Limo Tint, BFG Commercial T/A's, Rancho RS9000XL Shocks, Kenwood Double Din, K&N Intake, Banks Monster Exhaust
Chris_Murder's Daily Driver.
Chris_Murder is offline  
post #22 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 02:00 PM
Slightly Disjointed
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Age: 28
Posts: 15,402
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
The Explorer tube is basically the Mustang tube with an extra branch for the water PCV heater. I used that tube last time around and just plugged that branch. Before that I used the Crown Vic tube. No real preference for either, as both require a certain level of creativity to hook up cleanly, I deleted CELO on both setups.

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #23 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 02:09 PM
PostWhore
 
nall_one's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Hickman Nebraska
Age: 29
Posts: 1,273
Garage
i don't think my cold lockout even works, but i left it in by cutting it off the old tube, flaring it on both ends, then splicing it into the hose i used to connect the PI tube to the heater core. figured it was in their before, why not leave it still blows cold air on my feet in the winter. 'shrug'

neat, my thread is listed in their at the bottom of the definitive PI swap link! i feel special

RUST!! eating away at me more than the rear fender wells
95 Deep Jewel Green 40th Anniversary Bird / Stock SOHC 170k FRPP PI intake swap, filter relocated! 97 Mk8 4R70W, Jmod, 3L27 / energy susp rear spindle, and cobra arm bushings, Tru-Cool Max/radiator cooler bypassed, 93 Mk8 shaft, and LCAs, 225/60r16 Michelin Defenders on Windstar twin 5spokes, Vogtland 1.6drop springs, Tokico Blues, PBR, and rear-disk swap, 89 SC swaybars
nall_one is offline  
post #24 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 02:47 PM
Kind of slapped together
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bossier City, LA
Age: 61
Posts: 4,447
Quote:
Originally Posted by nall_one View Post
i don't think my cold lockout even works, but i left it in by cutting it off the old tube, flaring it on both ends, then splicing it into the hose i used to connect the PI tube to the heater core. figured it was in their before, why not leave it still blows cold air on my feet in the winter. 'shrug'
So, how did you make the ground connection?

On the 5.0HO, it's completed through the bolt that holds that tube to the intake.

If that tube is just floating in rubber, you need to provide a ground return for that switch.

RwP
RalphP is offline  
post #25 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-11-2013, 07:21 PM
Converter Guy
 
dirtyd0g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: batavia,oh
Age: 39
Posts: 6,617
Send a message via Yahoo to dirtyd0g
I have built brass Tee's for the sensor and welded a brass bolt to one side to ground it then use hose barbs for the heater hose. Probably more complicated than most want but it is trouble free.
Alan

DirtyDog Performance.Com
Proud sponsor of the SC/XR7 Shootout and Joel Bender Memorial Nats

Please do not send me messages on forums they are too hard to keep up with and I don't check in very often anymore call me at 513 898-1580 or email me alan at dirtydogperformance.com
dirtyd0g is offline  
post #26 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-23-2013, 11:15 PM
5th Gear Poster
 
TwoHaggard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 482
Garage
Iv got my factory Intake off and went to fit the explorer one and it seems to be In the way of the the coolant tube / water pump nipple. Do I have to take out the plugs In the intake for the tube to run threw or get a different coolant tube?

P.i. intake,70mm tb, cai, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, Intrax 2in lowering springs, KYB front and back shocks n sturts,
Taylor 8mm Plug Wires, True Dual Exhaust No Cats 2.25in pipe alltheway back Mid mounted dual in / dual out Jones Powerflow muffler then ran out back to 16x3 chrome tips 93Mark8 Driveshaft, 1.25Rear sway bar, 4:10s, TrackLok, Rear Diff Cover Brace, Sc Wheels 235/60s, Jmodd, Air Bags in Springs,Rear strut Bar,17in Mirror Blk CobraRs, Sc L Brackets, rear torsional load brace, kmember-frame brace, weightloss program
TwoHaggard is offline  
post #27 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-23-2013, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
Moderator & Teksid Whore
Super Moderator
 
guitar maestro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Laredo, Texas
Age: 37
Posts: 11,923
Send a message via MSN to guitar maestro Send a message via Yahoo to guitar maestro
so you're trying to fit a PI intake, with the stock 1995 NPI coolant tube, correct?
guitar maestro is online now  
post #28 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-23-2013, 11:19 PM
Converter Guy
 
dirtyd0g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: batavia,oh
Age: 39
Posts: 6,617
Send a message via Yahoo to dirtyd0g
You need a tube that fits a pi intake one way or another.
Alan

DirtyDog Performance.Com
Proud sponsor of the SC/XR7 Shootout and Joel Bender Memorial Nats

Please do not send me messages on forums they are too hard to keep up with and I don't check in very often anymore call me at 513 898-1580 or email me alan at dirtydogperformance.com
dirtyd0g is offline  
post #29 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-24-2013, 09:09 AM
5th Gear Poster
 
TwoHaggard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 482
Garage


Seems my water pump nipple hits this center hole, do you remove that? This intake also had like a bigger foam tampon on it that I slide off also.
I have a 95 coolant tube, 96 coolant tube and 04 explorer one that came with this intake because I pulled it off the engine myself. I didn't try all the tubes yet

P.i. intake,70mm tb, cai, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, Intrax 2in lowering springs, KYB front and back shocks n sturts,
Taylor 8mm Plug Wires, True Dual Exhaust No Cats 2.25in pipe alltheway back Mid mounted dual in / dual out Jones Powerflow muffler then ran out back to 16x3 chrome tips 93Mark8 Driveshaft, 1.25Rear sway bar, 4:10s, TrackLok, Rear Diff Cover Brace, Sc Wheels 235/60s, Jmodd, Air Bags in Springs,Rear strut Bar,17in Mirror Blk CobraRs, Sc L Brackets, rear torsional load brace, kmember-frame brace, weightloss program
TwoHaggard is offline  
post #30 of 104 (permalink) Old 08-24-2013, 12:27 PM
Converter Guy
 
dirtyd0g's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: batavia,oh
Age: 39
Posts: 6,617
Send a message via Yahoo to dirtyd0g
The pi tube makes a hard turn right after the nipple the pipe is not straight through.
I actually built my own tube and threaded the block for a hose barb fitting, but I have a trick flow intake.
Alan

DirtyDog Performance.Com
Proud sponsor of the SC/XR7 Shootout and Joel Bender Memorial Nats

Please do not send me messages on forums they are too hard to keep up with and I don't check in very often anymore call me at 513 898-1580 or email me alan at dirtydogperformance.com
dirtyd0g is offline  
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TCCoA Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome