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Sounds fair. I get 22-24ish with EGR, depending on cruising speed. City is usually 20, give or take an MPG.
I get about 17 MPG in the city if I take it easy on the throttle.

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i only get like 200 miles to a tank of gas and that my best i hav 2004xx miles on my car is ther anything i can do to get better gas millage btw i have the 4.6 in my 1996 any ideas
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i only get like 200 miles to a tank of gas and that my best i hav 2004xx miles on my car is ther anything i can do to get better gas millage btw i have the 4.6 in my 1996 any ideas
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95 T-bird with 4.6, aod, and 3.08's.....and recomended tire pressure plus 3

My trip to New Jersey, the car was getting 32-35 mpg's at 65 mph average....thas was with no cats, no mufflers, and only 1 of 4 o2 sensors. On the way back, I think I got about the same with dual exhast MadMikeyL sold me from Alicks T-bird (by the way, both the car, my friends, and I love the exhaust) but I was paying more attention to changing road conditions than mpgs. My daily drive to work and back change due to which way I go, highway or back roads, but minimun mpg of 22

I keep fluid up where they need to be, keep oil changed. I should look into my egr system since its starting to throw trouble codes, but thats for my next day off

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i only get like 200 miles to a tank of gas and that my best i hav 2004xx miles on my car is ther anything i can do to get better gas millage btw i have the 4.6 in my 1996 any ideas
If the front O2's are original, change them!

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I did a bit of driving today. I was up and down rt 1 and around town. This was about 50/50 city/highway driving. Total of 152 miles
Scangauge II says...

I love my V8, but I'd love it more if all 8 cylinders worked. (they do now)

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Jeez, the only time my scangauge II says that is after a few miles of coasting after initial start up basically an incorrect reading, how did you pull that off? Were you hypermileing the whole time?

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Jeez, the only time my scangauge II says that is after a few miles of coasting after initial start up basically an incorrect reading, how did you pull that off? Were you hypermileing the whole time?
Nope, just cruising with a sweetheart. She brings out the MPG's in me

I love my V8, but I'd love it more if all 8 cylinders worked. (they do now)

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Nope, just cruising with a sweetheart. She brings out the MPG's in me
Maybe it's calibrated for the 5.4L

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Maybe it's calibrated for the 5.4L
I didn't even think about that, show a snap shot of what engine it's calibrated for lol.

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I didn't even think about that, show a snap shot of what engine it's calibrated for lol.
calibrated for a 4.6. No doubt about it because it never ever leaves my car.

I love my V8, but I'd love it more if all 8 cylinders worked. (they do now)

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Well, since I put my Fuelly for the Cougar in the 3.8 thread, here's the Fuelly for the Bird. The only continuous set of fuel up data I had available to input was the last quarter of 08. That was before I signed up here and while the car was still stock.



22.8 MPG averaged over 3100 miles; 60% highway. Bests of 29.8, 29.0 and 28.6, all highway.

I'm sure this number will go down once I start driving it this year.

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using specified octang helps mpg as the computer is programed usually for 87 or 89...watched a show on it. waste of money and gas unless comp is tuned for 93
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I'd rather use 87 no ethanol, than 89 with ethanol. I get a couple MPG's better, and probably end up saving a dollar or 2, but I pay 10 cents more. Just ranting.

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I'd rather use 87 no ethanol, than 89 with ethanol. I get a couple MPG's better, and probably end up saving a dollar or 2, but I pay 10 cents more. Just ranting.
Sadly to my knowledge there is no non ethanol stations out here, we also only have 91 for premium instead of 93.

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Crazy. It's 10% ethanol. Or none. We hardly have any E85 stations out here, to this date ive only seen 2 in Iowa.

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We have one station that sells ethanol free gasoline in my area. I live in Virginia Beach, VA and to get this ethanol free gas, I have to drive to Knotts Island, NC. It's a little over an hour long trip. I drove my Mustang down there once as an experiment. I gained 2 MPG with the ethanol free gas. This was with me opening all 4 barrels a couple of times.

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Last three tanks ranged from 19.x to 21.x mpg in 90% city driving.

I'm running 87 octane, from whatever gas station doesn't do the "get our card or pay more" pricing.

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i was getting close to 18 around town and 20-22 hwy now 14-17 total cause of ethenal content
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Engine: Stock 4.6L 2v Sohc V8
Average MPG 16-18
City MPG: 12-16
Highway MPG: 20-24
Fuel Used: 87 Octane
Average highway speed: 75-80 mph
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I started keeping track on the Mark VIII. Still needs work like an alignment, oils changed (with leaks fixed), cold skip, but no CEL and runs strong.

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Running Average: 19.9 MPG

Around town I used 9.6 gallons of fuel to go 218 miles: 22.7 MPG
2nd tank I used 14.0 gallons of fuel to go 251 miles: 17.9 MPG (I was showing off a few times with this tank full - lol)

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Taking the bird on a 300 mile round trip today, Will see what kind of MPG this thing will get

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I'm driving my car to the SC Shootout this weekend in KY. Will be the first time since the new engine went in five years ago that the car will be more than 50 miles from home. Expecting about 800 miles for the three day weekend. The car is reliable, but I really have no idea what the highway mileage will be - guessing 15 mpg, but will know for sure after this.

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I have read so many posts on this thread in which guys have talked about removing the "Air Silencer." Can someone tell me what, and where this is on my 97, 4.6 Bird. Is it an easy DIY removal, and are there potential problems with this type of modification, or is it just all good?

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what is an Air Silencer and where is it ona 97 4.6?
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I filled up my 1995 TBird with only basic mods, PI intake, & Mark VIII converter (Stock Tune and Full Stock Exhaust) with 0% Ethanol Marine 87 Octane Fuel back home in Steinhatchee, Florida.
I drove 430 miles in 8 hours to Miami taking only back roads (US19, US27, US441, & US1) and never stopped for fuel!

I filled up in Miami and it took 15.3 Gallons to fill the 'Bird up netting 430/15.3 = 28.1 MPG

Historically, I average around 27-28 mpg, so it's no surprise to me; I will be taking the Turnpike home after filling up with 10% Ethanol fuel to check another tank.

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UPDATE: Ok, after CAI added, I checked mileage on multiple tank fulls of fuel:
1st Tank: 26.1 Avg MPG
2nd Tank: 27.9 Avg MPG
3rd Tank: 25.4 Avg MPG
4th Tank: 25.9 Avg MPG (254 miles on 9.8 gallons of fuel)

Lastly, I haven't done anything to the car in awhile except for disconnect the EGR valve because it was acting up. Took a trip yesterday and got this with a bad tire that was vibrating badly and a misfire when it's cold:
5th Tank: 24.8 Avg MPG (322 miles on 13.0 gallons of fuel)
6th Tank: 25.8 Avg MPG (235 miles on 9.1 gallons of fuel) still need that tune-up, but got two new tires!

Fixed the EGR System (and the tire):
7th Tank: 29.2 Avg MPG (213 miles on 7.3 gallons of fuel) went to Tally
8th Tank: 24.7 Avg MPG (193 miles on 7.8 gallons of fuel) running 90+ mph to Tally about 1/3 of the distance
9th Tank: 28.8 Avg MPG (340 miles on 11.8 gallons of fuel) trip to Alabama
10th Tank: 27.8 Avg MPG (353 miles on 12.7 gallons of fuel) return home from Alabama
11th Tank: 30.0 Avg MPG (244 miles on 8.1 gallons) all highway cruise set at 65 mph to Jacksonville Airport.
12th Tank: 27.8 Avg MPG (317 miles 11.4 gallons of fuel) trip to Ocala, Gainesville, and surrounding areas.
13th Tank: 27.6 Avg MPG (448 miles 16.2 gallons of fuel) trip to Orlando, Tampa, and surrounding areas.
14th Tank: 29.5 Avg MPG (386 miles 13.1 gallons of fuel) trip to Orlando.
15th Tank: 27.2 Avg MPG (147 miles 5.4 gallons of fuel) trip to Gainesville and back.
16th Tank: 28.1 Avg MPG (430 miles 15.3 gallons of fuel) trip to Miami.
17th Tank: 28.5 Avg MPG (433 miles 15.2 gallons of fuel) return from Miami.

Ok, I got a new set of tires on the back - BF Goodrich with a tread wear rating of 700...
18th Tank: 27.6 Avg MPG (334 miles 12.1 gallons of fuel) trip to Gainesville, then down to Ft. Myers.
19th Tank: 30.4 Avg MPG (295 miles 9.7 gallons of fuel) return trip straight home from Ft. Myers.
20th Tank: 30.5 Avg MPG (149.4 miles 4.9 gallons of fuel) trip to Gainesville and back.
21st Tank: 27.2 Avg MPG (152.3 miles 5.6 gallons of fuel) trip to Gainesville and back; showing off a little cost me some fuel :P

Added front chin spoiler from a 1988 Ford Bronco II:
22nd Tank: 30.1 Avg MPG (454.2 miles 15.1 gallons of fuel) trip to Cumming, GA and partially back to pick up car parts.
23rd Tank: 29.9 Avg MPG (304.6 miles 10.2 gallons of fuel) return trip from Cumming, GA loaded with about 300 lbs parts/tools.
24th Tank: 29.7 Avg MPG (189.8 miles 6.4 gallons of fuel) trip to Perry then Gainesville and back home.
25th Tank: 29.3 Avg MPG (170.1 miles 5.8 gallons of fuel) trip to Gainesville with detour and back home.
26th Tank: 29.1 Avg MPG (192 miles 6.6 gallons of fuel) trip to Tallahassee and back home.


RUNNING AVERAGE (all tanks of fuel combined): 28.0 MPG

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