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post #61 of 117 (permalink) Old 06-09-2008, 07:18 AM
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engine:4.2L V6 Supercharged
City MPG: 17-20
Highway MPG: 24+
Fuel used: Primarily BP 93, because it runs well on it and its all domestic oil--so far.
Average speed: 45 city/ 75+ highway
weather: since build, from 30's to upper 90's
Engine Mileage: about 5000 since build
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Engine: 3.8L Naturally aspirated
City MPG: Still calculating.
Highway MPG: 24.175
Fuel Used: 89 octane with "techron" detergents and Lucas injector cleaner additive.
Average highway speed: Using cruise control at 110kph/70mph.
Average Climate: Coastal, humid, sunny 77F to 86F daytime highs.
Mechanical Mods: None
Mileage on the Engine: 290000km / 181250Miles
Comments: I've only had this car a month, and I'm a little surprised it gets as good mileage as it does. The head gaskets were done approx 20000km ago.
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Engine:3.8
City MPG:18-25
Highway MPG:28
Fuel Used:89 octane cheap stuff.
Average highway speed:70-85
Average Climate:65-85
Mechanical Mods:Hydrogen Generator, CAI, MAF upside down.
Mileage on the Engine:85,000
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I own the slowest accelerating Blunderbird on the planet. 12 seconds to 60mph. Any ideas? Hit me up.
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Engine: 3.8L
City MPG: not known, I average 27-28 going to and from work average speed 45MPH with a couple stops.
Highway MPG: 30
Fuel Used: 87, ethanol blend
Average Highway speed: 65 to 70 MPH.
Mechanical mods: Removed intake silencer, IGK iridium plugs, 8.8mm wires. It is also lowered 1.25", maybe it reduces drag?
Mileage on Engine: 233,000
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Engine: 3.8
City MPG - 250 mi/ tank
highway - Probably less(no OD)
Fuel - Diamond Shamrock 87
average highway speed - 55 - 70
climate - lots of hills 50 - 80F (Colorado)
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Mileage - 196000

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Engine: 3.8L
City MPG: 19+ mpg
Highway MPG: Close to 30 mpg
Combined MPG: 27 MPG (75% Highway, 15% City)
Fuel Used: 87
Average Highway Speed: 70-80 mph
Average Climate: 65-75
Mechanical Mods: 5-SPEED
Mileage on the Engine: 90,000+
Comments: Gained 3-4 MPGs swapping to a manual.

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Engine:3.8 L V6
City MPG: 16-17
Highway MPG:23-24
Fuel Used:87 and what ever is cheapest
Average highway speed: 80 ish
Average Climate: Middle TN anything goes
Mechanical Mods: Engine is stock with very light porting, trans is re-built and shifts tight (it will bark second when ever you want)
Mileage on the Engine: 270,000 ish
Comments: I would love to know how some of you get near 30 on the highway. I have never gotten close to that. The best I ever saw was 26 and some change. But hey, when I did the second set of head gaskets at 251,000 I could still just barely see the original cylinder hone marks.
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Average: 19 mpg 75% city, 25% highway est. (21 mpg)
Highest : 26, Omaha to KC and back home with some driving around in KC, just under 400 miles if I remember, one tank of gas, averaging 75 mph
Fuel Used: 89
Average Climate: there is no average in NE
Mechanical Mods: No Air Silencer, Chip, K & N (U/D pulley)
Mileage on Engine: 143,000 (145,000)


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Engine:3.8L
City MPG:17-18
Highway MPG:26
Fuel Used:87
Average highway speed:65
Average Climate:This is Texas, if you don't like the weather wait 10 minutes
Mechanical Mods: none really, I just put a Spectre drop in air filter though
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Engine: 3.8L V6 N/A
City MPG: Approx. 13-15MPG
Highway MPG: Approx. 25-30MPG.
Fuel Used: 89 Octane, 7% Ethanol; The cheap stuff. Premium every 10th tank or so.
Average highway speed: 110k/h (Roughly 70MPH)
Average Climate: -20 to -30C in winter, 25 to 35C in summer.
Mechanical Mods: Nothing (Edit: Just remembered. High-volume fuel pump installed when the original died. Don't know anything more specific than that, though)
Mileage on the Engine: 210,000KM
Comments: I drive my bird very nicely. I don't think I've ever put the pedal farther than a quarter of the way down (And even that is rare), and I could probably count on my fingers the number of times anybody has floored it (And only ever at highway speeds to pass somebody). The car has also always been driven in drive, not overdrive, unless on the highway (Both by me and the original owner). Fuel economy and performance both seem to improve in colder temperatures, and it especially loves cold, rainy days - Everybody else I've asked says the opposite about their cars (Fuel economy and performance decrease noticably in the cold). Fuel injector cleaner was used probably every 3rd tank of gas or so. Probably on the third set of spark plugs in the car's life, and it's never been in the shop for anything besides oil changes and a fuel pump replacement. Also, for the record, the car apparently gets 40MPG at ~90MPH, in overdrive with the A/C on full, but I haven't verified this myself.
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Engine: 3.8L V6 N/A
City MPG: Live out in the country. I average 26 back and forth to work.
Highway MPG: Round trip from Central Iowa to northern Iowa to Omaha and back averaged 29.2 on two tanks
Fuel Used: 89 Octane, Corn gas is subsidized here.
Average highway speed: 70MPH
Average Climate: For this trip, 70's. Year round, everything from -15 to 105
Mechanical Mods: Removed air silencer, Denso Iridium plugs and 8.8mm wires about 100,000 miles ago.
Mileage on the Engine: 241,000 miles and counting
Comments: My trans is slipping a little. When I pass someone the revs will get up to 4000 and it will slam into gear. Maybe this is why the MPGs have gone down since October of last year.

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Engine: 3.8L V6
City MPG: 23...I can get 300 miles out of a tank if I try
Highway MPG: 30 with A/C on
Fuel Used: 87 oct
Average highway speed: 83 ... 10 miles of interstate to work so I let her breath
Mechanical Mods: Cats removed
Mileage on the Engine: 154,000 and counting
Comments: I paid $500 for the car in '06 and got a total of about $1500 in her now, not counting the Cobra rims and Potenza tires, I had those another 'Bird.

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Engine: 3.8 V6
City MPG: ~17 (stop lights and short highway jogs)
Highway MPG: 28.9 (from PA to SC)
Fuel Used: 87 Octane (10% ethanol)
Average highway speed: 80MPH
Average Climate: For this trip, 90's
Mechanical Mods: None
Mileage on the Engine: 108,000 miles
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- It actually seems to do about that same with ethanol free, but I usually try to avoid ethanol anyway.
- This PA to SC trip was with a lot of weight in the car. I like to laugh at my mom's 2009 Toyota Camry that couldn't pull this mileage when loaded with luggage like my 1993 T-Bird was today and last month.

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AC mpg Reduction

As I have not been able to test it very well myself to this point, I am curious if you anyone has noticed how much the AC reduces fuel economy at highway speeds. Several studies have shown the windows down works better up to certain speeds, whereas the engine has enough spare power at high speeds to make the AC drag fairly negligible. This is all based on how aerodynamic the vehicle is to begin with, of course.

I got my 29 MPG on the highway with windows down and the AC off. As this only really works when it's just me in the car (I don't personally mind the heat with wind blowing on me, but passenger comfort is an issue). I notice a decrease in perceived power with the AC on, I just don't know how much of a difference it really makes, as I haven't gone on any lengthy highway trips with the AC on.

So does anyone have a good estimate themselves about how much AC would decrease my fuel economy on the highway?


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I can't help as far as how much it decreases since I have never gone on the highway with the window so much as cracked open an inch, but I saw 32 MPG on flat roads going between 75 and 80.

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I can't help as far as how much it decreases since I have never gone on the highway with the window so much as cracked open an inch, but I saw 32 MPG on flat roads going between 75 and 80.
A/C on I assume?
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Yes, on HIGH too.

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As that's the 4.6 L (from your profile), I'm not sure how much that applies, but it certainly is food for thought. One would think that would be less efficient given the eco rating, which then confuses me on some levels. Perhaps that could show how inaccurate their measurements are, which is obvious anyway given that I've easily gotten over the rating in mine several times with straight highway driving.

Regardless, If anyone has any experience on this with the 3.8 engine, I'd be curious. If not, thanks master.
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Sorry, I can't assume that everyone has been around long enough to know that I used to have a 3.8L. I did an engine swap to the 4.6L, but the info I posted was applicable to when I had my 3.8L.

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Sorry... thank you for the info then! As you can tell from my profile info, I'm quite the n00b here, so please bear with me. I'm growing to love this place.
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City MPG: 21-24
Highway MPG: 30+
Fuel Used: 87
Average highway speed: 70 MPH
Average Climate: 70-80
Mechanical Mods: None
Mileage on the Engine: 115,000 miles
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- City MPG calculated over the last 1,000 miles since I bought the car.
- HWY MPG is representative of only one 240 mile trip with windows down about 2". I am not certain of the mileage as the tank was not filled completely prior to the start of the trip and the tires were under inflated somewhat. I expect to see closer to 35, if not more in the coming weeks.

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Engine: 3.8 V6
City MPG: 21-24
Highway MPG: 38
Fuel Used: 87
Average highway speed: 70 MPH
Average Climate: at the time about 80 degrees
Mechanical Mods: None
Mileage on the Engine: 15000 kms

Comments: I had acquired this 90 tbird for cheap due to a spun bering, rebuilt the engine went to 0.30 over new pistons and rings thats all we had done to it. the usual cleanup and new gaskets and stuffed her back in at about 5000kms took a 2400km road trip to visit relatives and break in mileage was an impressive 28 MPG 8 months later took a trip north about 1200 km round trip both there and back got an even more impressive 38 MPG. Like to see most a lot of these so called fuel economical vehicles do that.
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I just checked my gas mileage for the first time in 12 years. 3.8, 3.27:1 rear and AOD transmission.

22.0 in city driving. I'm pretty happy with that considering the ethenol fuel.

Reconfirmed again at 22 in city driving. 3/24/11.

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Engine: 3.8L V6
City MPG: 16
Highway MPG: Generally around 30, I've gotten upto 38
Fuel Used: 87
Average highway speed: Driving 70 I get around 30, at 55-60 I get upwards of 35.
Average Climate: 80*F
Mechanical Mods: Air Silencer Removal, 1.5" drop, larger tires...
Mileage on the Engine: 123,200
Comments: Some people on here could double their mileage if they only drive sensibly...

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I started checking my mileage about 15 years ago when I began commuting regularly between Springfield and Columbus Ohio. About a 20/80 City/Hwy. I was driving an SVO then and was fairly happy that I got a general 22 MPG {SVO's aint about driving for economy}, then I drove a 93 Probe 2.2L, and I got a steady 27, but again drove like the accel only had on and off.

Then a 95 Taurus 3.0 and could get 25 - 27. then my 3.8 Tbirds which returned 23 mpg pretty steady with 25 city/75Hwy mix at about 72 mph on hwy. Thing I really noticed was the switch in blends when I lost 2 mpg.
But I never really drove for economy and, the few times I checked, my cruise speed {65 v 72} didnt seem to matter much. Of course those cars are all relatively slippery.
On a three hour highway trip, my last bird got 27 but it needed a tuneup. And my local station's pumps are on a slope. THAT MATTERS

Last week though I really got my eyes opened. Driving our Bravada {Blazer} I had set the cruise to 70 and decided to check my instantaneous fuel usage and I was pissed it was only 19 mpg, even going down a slope never got to 30. And up-slope was 15
I reset the cruise control to 65 and WOW.. reading went right up to 22-23 on the flat and well over 30 on down slope, up-slope 17.

Really I knew that the slow down-save fuel worked more for a rolling box than our slippery birds but 20% for 5 mph is something else!
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City MPG: Less than 8-10 <----
Highway MPG: 20+
Fuel Used: 91 Octane
Average highway speed: 65mph
Average Climate: avg. 70-90 degrees
Mechanical Mods: 3.31 Rear diff
Mileage on the Engine: 170k on vehicle, 5k on rebuilt engine
Comments: Its wicked fast off the line, but top end is lacking on the freeway with the 3.31 rear end gears. Its just a toy car, not a daily driver.
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I'll update this as I put on the miles, it's not completely broken in yet and climate conditions are undesirable right now.

Date______Mileage________Miles__Fuel_____MPG
7/01/2011: 1786.2-1980.5= 194.3 /14.029 = 13.849
7/10/2011: 1980.5-2170.1= 189.6 /13.326 = 14.227

This is 90% city driving; 35-45 stop and go with a traffic light every mile. Right now it's been about 110-120 out so the AC is on 60 all the time. I will be testing highway soon.

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Mileage on motor: 2200
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Fuel; using 87 right now, will go back to 89 soon for comparisons.

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