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Old 01-21-2008, 07:01 AM   #1
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EEStor 'Electrical Energy Storage Units' , end of oil?

This is interesting and hopefully no one has posted about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEstor , I received an email about this from SpookyToothcycles and if true that would solve a lot of todays problems. A "Battery" that contains no chemicals and can store almost twice as much per kilogram compared to lithium ion battery.....
and interesting blog from some website http://www.cleantechblog.com/2007/01...hats-real.html
I hope this is true, it would definately bring back the electric car and say good bye to hydrogen. Personally a bomb strapped to your car is not an answer, that only makes it easy for the criminals.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:26 AM   #2
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Quote from one of the websites:
"Among EEStor's claims is that its "electrical energy storage unit" could pack nearly 10 times the energy punch of a lead-acid battery of similar weight and, under mass production, would cost half as much.

It also says its technology more than doubles the energy density of lithium-ion batteries in most portable computer and mobile gadgets today, but could be produced at one-eighth the cost.

If that's not impressive enough, EEStor says its energy storage technology is "not explosive, corrosive, or hazardous" like lead-acid and most lithium-ion systems, and will outlast the life of any commercial product it powers. It can also absorb energy quickly, meaning a small electric car containing a 17-kilowatt-hour system could be fully charged in four to six minutes versus hours for other battery technologies, the company claims."
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:14 AM   #3
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I'll get excited when I see them make one. They don't even appear to have made a "battery" yet, but there's a ton of hype and money already being staked on it. I can see this one crashing and burning before it even gets out of the gate, sad as that might be.


And on a side note, as far as the "end of oil" sentiment... in the scenario that EEStor delivers 100%, and you have an electric car that doesn't need gas, you still have to charge that battery.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:18 AM   #4
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I remember alot of people invested in the instant cooling pop can idea and the guys that came up with idea took the money from the investors and were never seen again
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And on a side note, as far as the "end of oil" sentiment... in the scenario that EEStor delivers 100%, and you have an electric car that doesn't need gas, you still have to charge that battery.
That was a publicity stunt done by me , people will more likely to read . BTW electricity can be produced without oil (wind, solar, hydrogen, water).
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And on a side note, as far as the "end of oil" sentiment... in the scenario that EEStor delivers 100%, and you have an electric car that doesn't need gas, you still have to charge that battery.

I second that.

There is no such thing as an electric car.

There either oil burning, coal burning or nuclear.
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That was a publicity stunt done by me , people will more likely to read . BTW electricity can be produced without oil (wind, solar, hydrogen, water).


There's definitely other ways to charge a battery. But the reality is that the sheer amount of energy produced by those non-oil sources would have to go way way up to cover the countries power needs. And then, on top of that, produce enough power to accommodate all of the hypothetical non-petroleum cars on the road that need to get their energy from somewhere.

I'm not saying it can't be done. Just pointing some things out. Hopefully this new "battery" thing will work out. It sounds like exactly what electric cars have been needing in order to be taken seriously. I'm not a nay-sayer, just a skeptic
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Agreed, The whole production of electricity would have to be overhauled in order to be completely green (very pricey), but it is possible to do it. Another thing is that hydrogen could be used to power at home charge stations (or power grid) without the problem of a rolling bomb, I know that Honda already had this technology at least 3-4 years ago. I think overcoming the major hurdle is building a vehicle that can go more than 25mph and able to go more than 50 miles economically (not using lead acid or lithium ion batteries that just use more oil in production).
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I hope this is true, it would definately bring back the electric car and say good bye to hydrogen. Personally a bomb strapped to your car is not an answer, that only makes it easy for the criminals.
If you think a fully charged "336 pound, 31 farad, 3500 volt" capacitor isn't a potential bomb in an accident your sadly mistaken.
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A note about Hydrogen....

You think Carbon Monoxide is a greenhouse gas? Wait till you see water vapor. That's my only beef with Hydrogen power.
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Not to mention what's the enviormentally friendly way to produce large quantities of hydrogen fuel cheaply? It's not like we already have a large surplus of electrical generating capacity. Before we have large scale hydrogen fuel production we'll need to build out massive amounts of electrical generating capacity to then power the hydrogen fuel generators.
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