Experience with nitrous...

MNCat · 10-05-2009, 01:19 PM

What plugs should I be running with a 75 shot? I have a tune on the car and Im running 1 step colder plugs...should I drop it down to 2 step colder?

So far I have not detonated or run into any issues. But I want to be sure that Im not setting myself up for a failure. (I know it could happen) Just want to compare with others....opinions welcome.

What are you guys running?

_95badbird · 10-05-2009, 02:49 PM

Run some NGK TR6's.
they are 1 step cooler than stock, and should be fine for a 75 shot.

joker77_2005 · 10-06-2009, 11:32 PM

i run the zex power racer plugs in my cougar with the 125 shot
mike

95xbird · 10-06-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _95badbird

Run some NGK TR6's.
they are 1 step cooler than stock, and should be fine for a 75 shot.

Dont listen to 95badbird. He blows up engines on nitrous.

1MTNCAT · 10-07-2009, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNCat

What plugs should I be running with a 75 shot? I have a tune on the car and Im running 1 step colder plugs...should I drop it down to 2 step colder?

So far I have not detonated or run into any issues. But I want to be sure that Im not setting myself up for a failure. (I know it could happen) Just want to compare with others....opinions welcome.

What are you guys running?

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With a range colder plug on a 75 shot you should be fine. The main thing is to make sure the fuel system is up to par with a good aftermarket pump and regulator. Going lean is your biggest concern and make sure you are running the right jets and pressure. Also insure your tune pulls some timing out on top. That will help make it safer as well.

As long as the engine is in good condition and you take care in how you handle it, it should run well and not be a problem. Beat on it continuously and it will break. I have had much success with mine over the past 10 years.

Good luck and have fun!

_95badbird · 10-07-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 95xbird

Dont listen to 95badbird. He blows up engines on nitrous.

this is true.....however, I wished I would have done a little more research like this guy first...

Big Ed H · 10-17-2009, 07:59 AM

easiest thing to remember about running nitrous as I have done it on various vehicles from a V6 tbird (89 model) to a 2000 crown vic police interceptor to an 02 windstar and a 90 lincoln town car.... if it starts to do unusual stuff, shut it off IMMEDIATELY.... if you are on a run down the track and you hear or feel a slight stumble, its not everything saying "get off the gas and jump right back into it again!!" something caused that stumble so finish out your run on a coast out. Better to lose a race and still have an engine than to keep in it and have a collection of scrap metal. The 2000 crown vic had a 100 shot on it with everything bone stock and untouched except newer coil on plug units from an 02 gt mustang. It ran a 9.90 1/8th mile black tracking the tires all the way to the 400 ft area.

Pull your plugs and check them out under a magnifying glass. if you see mild pitting then you are going a bit lean and need to change the pump strainer in the tank and the fuel filter, but since you are already in there, go ahead and get you a 255lph pump and install it. they are less than 100 on ebay motors. now, dont think cause you got a new pump you have a new engine... proceed very cautiously and what I always recommend you do is get a collection of different jets for nitrous.

Bad part is that to get every sice they make and have 2 of them on hand would cost you almost 1900 bucks. Granted you may never run the same sized pills on both nitrous and fuel, but hey, you never know what can or will happen in the world of racing...

One last thing, GET A FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE INSTALLED on your fuel rail SCHRADER valve location, as soon as possible. The reason I say this is simple... you can RUN TEST your fuel system by taking your nitrous fogger and removing it from your intake tract, and (leaving the bottle off of course) run your engine at about 3000 rpms and hit the nitrous button and see where your fuel pressure sits at... have the fogger held by a buddy pointing into a milk jug or a gas can. it should stay above 34 psi. also, the reason for having the nitrous fogger pointing in the jug is that the jet in the fogger provides resistance that the line itself does not, so you will get a more accurate pressure gauge reading while doing it.

Something else, I ran a 220 shot on a 90 lincoln town car with 160K miles on it and only went one stage colder plugs, but I also bought double platinum autolites... never had a tune and never ran anything but the stock fuel pump. it was still in the car when it went to the crusher. I may have been blessed by the racing gods, but that 4400 pound car went into the 8 second zone (1/8th mile) with my 330 pound big butt driving it.

Point is this, be careful and check everything over. if it is all within parameters, check it all again to make sure... then go race and beat on some ricers..

last thing is this, nitrous is addicting, VERY ADDICTING... so be very careful and never have the bottle hooked up when driving around, plus dont ever bypass the safety valve in the bottle. have fun and enjoy the laughing gas

BigJohnny · 10-26-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Ed H

last thing is this, nitrous is addicting, VERY ADDICTING... so be very careful and never have the bottle hooked up when driving around, plus dont ever bypass the safety valve in the bottle. have fun and enjoy the laughing gas

power is addictive, and with great power comes great responsibility.

Audio Alchemist · 06-29-2010, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohnny

power is addictive, and with great power comes great responsibility.

That doesn't happen to be a Star Wars quote, is it?

Trunk Monkey · 06-29-2010, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95xbird

Dont listen to 95badbird. He blows up engines on nitrous.

Don't listen to 1MTNCAT either

Nitrous is why his car is "Under Construction 2009-2010" in his signature.

Actually, he's right. Don't beat on it continuously, set it up right and don't go crazy with it and you should be fine.

dirtyd0g · 06-29-2010, 10:04 AM

I never got to run my nitrous, I bought a Trunk monkey from the ghetto and he tried to huff all my nitrous, it took me a few days to find and he smelled terrible. Next time I will just buy an automatic bottle opener.
Alan

ThunderChecken · 06-29-2010, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtyd0g

I never got to run my nitrous, I bought a Trunk monkey from the ghetto and he tried to huff all my nitrous, it took me a few days to find and he smelled terrible. Next time I will just buy an automatic bottle opener.
Alan

LOL

Thanks Alan !

rmfk13 · 06-29-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Audio Alchemist

That doesn't happen to be a Star Wars quote, is it?

You'll never get a reply from that dude hes BANNED

95xbird · 06-29-2010, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audio Alchemist

That doesn't happen to be a Star Wars quote, is it?

I think is was Spiderman.

1MTNCAT · 06-29-2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey

Don't listen to 1MTNCAT either

Nitrous is why his car is "Under Construction 2009-2010" in his signature.

Actually, he's right. Don't beat on it continuously, set it up right and don't go crazy with it and you should be fine.

Ron,

You had just better hope it doesn't happen to get back together before August or you might eat those words LOL!! Of course its not going to so you are in luck!

Look how long it had run on the bottle! That wasn't the only problem either. Twice I had a JBA header crack and no doubt that didn't help the valves in the car. I was having issues with it when Jerry tuned it in Richmond 2007?. Guess it had started then and we know what it was now. Whatever the case, it'll be down at least till next year sometime.

See you in August.

RobertP · 06-30-2010, 08:49 AM

dont make me jump on this band wagon lol

good stuff

1MTNCAT · 06-30-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertP

dont make me jump on this band wagon lol

good stuff

Rob, You had yours up here in August one year if I remember correctly. It ain't Rockingham, and ain't spring or fall. I think you know that LOL!!

Bring yours up. We'll see what she has up here in the heat & humidity at Mason Dixon!

I know you've been working on them & ya know ya want to!! Besides, I'd like to see you here.

The only cars to have run 12.0's or quicker here in August at SB is my Cougar 12.0, Chris Vining's built SC, with meth injection/nitrous @ 11.98, and of course Mike Siska's. His has run low 11's - high 10's in the August heat.

I'm going to be real curious to see what Trunk Monkeys car can pull up here in similiar conditions to what mine ran in.

Regardless, as you said, its all good stuff!

Trunk Monkey · 06-30-2010, 12:15 PM

Oh, you can COUNT on me breaking into the 12's without even breaking a sweat.

So just go ahead and add me to that list of yours now ... LOL

I'm really looking forward to some good racing with you guys. It will be a great time.

Funny how this thread just turned into a smack talk thread.

RobertP · 06-30-2010, 01:02 PM

well the only thing stopping me from 10s is traction its done 10s here babying it on the start, so it would do easy low 11s i can assure but its to far a drive and the car has changed quite alot since then, it only ran .2-.3 slower up there not much difference

GRNDPNDR · 07-05-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95xbird

I think is was Spiderman.

it is spiderman.

10-05-2009, 01:19 PM	#1
MNCat Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MN Car: 97 Cougar Engine: 4 dot six Posts: 13	Experience with nitrous... What plugs should I be running with a 75 shot? I have a tune on the car and Im running 1 step colder plugs...should I drop it down to 2 step colder? So far I have not detonated or run into any issues. But I want to be sure that Im not setting myself up for a failure. (I know it could happen) Just want to compare with others....opinions welcome. What are you guys running?

10-05-2009, 02:49 PM	#2
_95badbird PostSlut Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Spring Texas Car: 9573 T-bird T-bird Engine: 5.8L 7.5L Age: 30 Posts: 11,288	Run some NGK TR6's. they are 1 step cooler than stock, and should be fine for a 75 shot. __________________ 1995 Thunderbird Stock Body

10-06-2009, 11:32 PM	#3
joker77_2005 5th Gear Poster *Membership Expired* Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WV Car: 1994 XR7 Engine: 4.6 Age: 33 Posts: 450	i run the zex power racer plugs in my cougar with the 125 shot mike __________________ 1990 ford f150 5.0 1989 cougar xr-7 5spd 5.0 --249hp/298tq 1989 mustang gt 10.68@126.97 1984 tbird 5.0 auto

06-29-2010, 10:04 AM	#11
dirtyd0g Converter Guy TCCoA Member Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: batavia,oh Car: 95 tbird lx Engine: CCLXXXI Age: 33 Posts: 5,129	I never got to run my nitrous, I bought a Trunk monkey from the ghetto and he tried to huff all my nitrous, it took me a few days to find and he smelled terrible. Next time I will just buy an automatic bottle opener. Alan __________________ DirtyDog Performance.Com Email Me for TCCoA member discounts on quality products such as Trick Flow products,Spec clutches, ARP studs, Mahle pistons and of course my custom built torque converters,differentials and transmissions. We also carry a full line of transmission parts and accesories as well as all of your modular and differential needs. Last year 14.55 on 230,000 mile NPI all original longblock

06-30-2010, 08:49 AM	#16
RobertP Carolinas Crew Chief *Membership Expired* Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: carthage Car: 95 tbird Engine: 4.6 Age: 28 Posts: 747	dont make me jump on this band wagon lol good stuff __________________ www.robstireandauto.com for all your car needs and parts check out our new 170 degree performance thermostat for your 2v 4.6 Blue Muscle Performance 86 bird 10.75 / best mph 128.35 (feathering it off the line) (Still adjusting the suspension) 95 bird - SVO Blower 1.75 60ft - 12.62 @ 106.71 7-8psi - true duals 1.60 60ft - 11.77 @ 114.59 All made possible with Braincoating’s ported manifolds 98 Gt 11.97 @ 113.58 (times dropping still) www.robstireandauto.com

10-17-2009, 07:59 AM	#7
Big Ed H 3rd Gear Poster Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ar Car: 1995 thunderbird Engine: 4.6 v8 Posts: 148	easiest thing to remember about running nitrous as I have done it on various vehicles from a V6 tbird (89 model) to a 2000 crown vic police interceptor to an 02 windstar and a 90 lincoln town car.... if it starts to do unusual stuff, shut it off IMMEDIATELY.... if you are on a run down the track and you hear or feel a slight stumble, its not everything saying "get off the gas and jump right back into it again!!" something caused that stumble so finish out your run on a coast out. Better to lose a race and still have an engine than to keep in it and have a collection of scrap metal. The 2000 crown vic had a 100 shot on it with everything bone stock and untouched except newer coil on plug units from an 02 gt mustang. It ran a 9.90 1/8th mile black tracking the tires all the way to the 400 ft area. Pull your plugs and check them out under a magnifying glass. if you see mild pitting then you are going a bit lean and need to change the pump strainer in the tank and the fuel filter, but since you are already in there, go ahead and get you a 255lph pump and install it. they are less than 100 on ebay motors. now, dont think cause you got a new pump you have a new engine... proceed very cautiously and what I always recommend you do is get a collection of different jets for nitrous. Bad part is that to get every sice they make and have 2 of them on hand would cost you almost 1900 bucks. Granted you may never run the same sized pills on both nitrous and fuel, but hey, you never know what can or will happen in the world of racing... One last thing, GET A FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE INSTALLED on your fuel rail SCHRADER valve location, as soon as possible. The reason I say this is simple... you can RUN TEST your fuel system by taking your nitrous fogger and removing it from your intake tract, and (leaving the bottle off of course) run your engine at about 3000 rpms and hit the nitrous button and see where your fuel pressure sits at... have the fogger held by a buddy pointing into a milk jug or a gas can. it should stay above 34 psi. also, the reason for having the nitrous fogger pointing in the jug is that the jet in the fogger provides resistance that the line itself does not, so you will get a more accurate pressure gauge reading while doing it. Something else, I ran a 220 shot on a 90 lincoln town car with 160K miles on it and only went one stage colder plugs, but I also bought double platinum autolites... never had a tune and never ran anything but the stock fuel pump. it was still in the car when it went to the crusher. I may have been blessed by the racing gods, but that 4400 pound car went into the 8 second zone (1/8th mile) with my 330 pound big butt driving it. Point is this, be careful and check everything over. if it is all within parameters, check it all again to make sure... then go race and beat on some ricers.. last thing is this, nitrous is addicting, VERY ADDICTING... so be very careful and never have the bottle hooked up when driving around, plus dont ever bypass the safety valve in the bottle. have fun and enjoy the laughing gas

06-30-2010, 12:15 PM	#18
Trunk Monkey Professional Traveling Monkey *Lifetime Member* Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: This week: Pittsburgh, PA Car: 1995 Thunderbird LX Engine: '04 PI 4.6L - SVO Age: 39 Posts: 4,003 View Photo Gallery	Oh, you can COUNT on me breaking into the 12's without even breaking a sweat. So just go ahead and add me to that list of yours now ... LOL I'm really looking forward to some good racing with you guys. It will be a great time. Funny how this thread just turned into a smack talk thread. __________________ My Mods: Air silencer delete, warp drive, dilithium crystals, flux capacitor, Slingshot Rubber band power adder, Leaf Blower Supercharger, Hamster Wheel & Hamster, Energizer Bunny generating 1.21 gigawatts, hover conversion, sextant celestial navigation system (The original GPS) Best 1/4: 1,320 nanoseconds @ 670,616,629.2 miles per hour "There isn't that much difference anymore between spacecraft, aircraft and modern automobiles..." - Keith Henry, NASA's Langley Research Center See a list of my real mods and pictures of my car HERE. The true performance of my car was made possible by the Carolinas Crew Chief, RobertP at Rob's Tire & Auto.

06-30-2010, 01:02 PM	#19
RobertP Carolinas Crew Chief *Membership Expired* Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: carthage Car: 95 tbird Engine: 4.6 Age: 28 Posts: 747	well the only thing stopping me from 10s is traction its done 10s here babying it on the start, so it would do easy low 11s i can assure but its to far a drive and the car has changed quite alot since then, it only ran .2-.3 slower up there not much difference __________________ www.robstireandauto.com for all your car needs and parts check out our new 170 degree performance thermostat for your 2v 4.6 Blue Muscle Performance 86 bird 10.75 / best mph 128.35 (feathering it off the line) (Still adjusting the suspension) 95 bird - SVO Blower 1.75 60ft - 12.62 @ 106.71 7-8psi - true duals 1.60 60ft - 11.77 @ 114.59 All made possible with Braincoating’s ported manifolds 98 Gt 11.97 @ 113.58 (times dropping still) www.robstireandauto.com

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