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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks again.
![]() Update - Spoke with Ryan@Injected yesterday, and it will be another week before the engine block is done. Tim Lynch at Pro Line Race Engines is doing the machine work on the 302 stroker kit. People who follow Outlaw 10.5 drag racing will recognize the name Tim Lynch. He is the man ![]() http://www.prolineraceengines.com/index.php The heads and cams are also on there way to Pro Line and Barry Doyle is going to refresh a set of Aric's heads and cams. Not sure what cams are being used, but I suspect they will not be Mark VIII grind cams. So, before anything is set up with Will Smith for the magazine article, all this preliminary stuff needs to be done first. More to come in the next week or two... ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Car: mult 90 SC/ 97 LX Sport
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This still has to be the BADDEST looking Mark VIII on the planet!
I just hope that I can get my SC project looking half as good as your mark does. I've started amassing parts for my own 4.6L DOHC implant into the SC project and I've been looking at Livernois Motorsports for the parts (recommended by racecougar). Good luck on the build. ![]()
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My MN12 Collection is EXPANDING!!! 1997 LX Sport 4.6L 2.73 , MODS=SCT tuned/J-Mod/Trans Cooler/Dyno max Cat-Back/NgkPlugs/Mac cold air/March UD's/FRPP aluminumcarrier3.73's(spare for strip use)/ PI cams + PI intake manifold w/adapter plate/ Mark VIII Convertor/80mm L-Maf/70mm TB/ Mark VIII 1 piece shaft/Cobra R' wheels/ Kumhos 235/60/16 - White leather w/ blue cloth seats - white face gauges in 95 cluster 1990/95 Hybrid SC Still in Pieces......
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Palm City, FL
Car: 1996 LX
Engine: 4.6 SOHC
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By the time you're done, you and I may have a little shootout of our own next year at sshs8...
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks, Joshbea6, and good luck on your build too.
![]() Sounds like fun, Mike. Just as long as we take down as many Impala's as we can first! ![]()
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Seasoned PostWhore
Join Date: May 2003
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... and we don't go sideways into each other ....
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
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The bottom end is done, and back at Aric's shop. Here are the pictures of it. I do not have the spec's on everything, but I asked Ryan some general questions, and he said it has a forged steel crank shaft, and all the stuff I mentioned before like the 302 stroker, Manley rods and pistons, ARP bolts, etc. The heads and cams are still at Pro Line, and as soon as they are done, Aric is going to put all this stuff together.
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Anything special with the heads and cams?
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Seasoned PostWhore
Join Date: May 2003
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Sweet...
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
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Nothing special being done to the heads and cams. The heads are being shaved and refreshed where needed, and the cams are being changed over from Mark VIII to Cobra cams. Basically, it is going to end up being a forged bottom end 302 stroker Cobra motor all the way down to the polished 96-98 Cobra intake.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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What is this??? Mike, you're NOT going to powder coat the block....?!?!
![]() Just kidding... You're headed the same way I'm going with my build up. Forging EVERYTHING.
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My MN12 Collection is EXPANDING!!! 1997 LX Sport 4.6L 2.73 , MODS=SCT tuned/J-Mod/Trans Cooler/Dyno max Cat-Back/NgkPlugs/Mac cold air/March UD's/FRPP aluminumcarrier3.73's(spare for strip use)/ PI cams + PI intake manifold w/adapter plate/ Mark VIII Convertor/80mm L-Maf/70mm TB/ Mark VIII 1 piece shaft/Cobra R' wheels/ Kumhos 235/60/16 - White leather w/ blue cloth seats - white face gauges in 95 cluster 1990/95 Hybrid SC Still in Pieces......
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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lol
I am just going to powder coat the timing cover a polished shiny silver color to try and match the polished intake, tubes, and supercharger. The cam covers are going to get a wrinkle finish (similar to the Ford GT cam covers) black color, along with some accessory brackets. Going to try and keep it toned down to make it look like something Ford should have done with this car. ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Aww...come on Mike, that car has bling written all over it....put it under the hood too....
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Heads are done, and back at Aric's shop.
He is good to go now for the engine build after the Fun Ford event here in Atlanta.
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very nice and pretty....things going to be a beast!
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks! Here are a couple photos from SSHS7, and a video of the best run of the day. Enjoy!
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Congrats on the 12.1
You'd better have a roll cage in the thing if you're going to put that beastly engine in there! ![]()
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks! I am going to keep it above 11.5 in the 1/4 mile, because I really do not like the idea of a roll bar or cage in the Mark, yet I still want to race it. Not sure what to expect for power with the new 302 stroker motor and the addition of the Cobra intake and Accufab throttle body, but I will stop looking for more power if/when I get to 500rwhp. That is as far as I want to go with it
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Join Date: May 2003
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Car: 1996 LX
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Quote:
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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lol Shush... I am going to leave all the big high power dirty work to the Mark's evil sinister mutant step brother... GB.
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Update - Will from Ford Builder magazine had a photo shoot of Aric building the motor at Injected Engineering today. Aric tore down the entire bottom end, and started over with the bare block for Will to shoot pictures from the very beginning.
We had a great day, and it was a real pleasure meeting Will. He is very well informed with the mn12 & fn10 chassis. He drove his really nice t-bird super coupe here, and he has more t-birds back at home. Aric took it as far as he could, and really wanted to have the chains on it today, but wanted to put new tensioner's on the motor, so he has a new list of parts for Ryan to hunt down. So, it should be very soon now for the new motor swap. Here are some pictures...
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Join Date: May 2003
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Nice...
Who did the heads?? -mike
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks, Mike
Pro Line Racing Engines refreshed the Cobra B heads.
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Imperial, Missouri (near St. L
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Good choice on the oil pump.
![]() What size dish are the pistons? -Rod
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Mike,
Not to say that Aric doesn't know what he's doing...but what is missing from these pictures?? Maybe he figures that you can save fuel by only putting in 7 pistons instead of 8.... ![]()
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Thanks, Rod. The pistons are forged Manley 11cc dish.
lol Josh, I was hoping nobody would notice, but that is top secret stuff. I am not at liberty to elaborate... ![]()
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Update - I dropped the Mark off at Aric's shop last Friday.
He is going to take the motor out, and send some parts to be powder coated, and transfer other stuff from the old motor to the new motor.Will Smith is going to come back to Aric's to shoot photo's of the completed engine, then, come back again and shoot the feature photo's of the car when it is ready to go on the dyno. I understand that the plan is to feature the Mark in a special edition of Super Rod magazine, that will focus on late model cars. While the engine is out of the car, the engine bay is going to be cleaned up and made nice and purdy for the new motor. And, Aric has a couple sets of Mustang rims with slicks that are going to be test fitted on the back of the Mark, to get an idea of how wide of a slick tire can be fitted in the wheel well. I am going to try and get a set of off the shelf Mustang drag rims if I can. If not, Ryan has a vendor that will custom make some drag rims. The goal here, is to shoot for everything to be done and dialed in by the rescheduled Atlanta Fun Ford Weekend event, on June 13, 14, 15. ![]()
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
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Ryan called me today, and said the motor is out of the Mark!
Waiting for the cam covers to return from powder coating, and then transfer the accessory parts over to the new motor. Will is going to come back and take a couple more photos of the complete engine assembly, and then come back again when the Mark goes to the rollers for the dyno session, and the final photo shoot of the car. All this is going to take place before Fun Ford Weekend at Atlanta Dragway - June 14th. I will try and get over to the shop tomorrow to take some pictures.
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Oh the carnage...
lol Take a look at all my junk scattered all over the place. Some stuff is going to be pulled off the old motor - like the front cover, and get a chemical bath to make it look like new again. Ryan has to go over and pick up the powder coated cam covers (used a pair of Aric's covers that I am trading him for}, and he is calling the Bradshaw Bros. and PI to see if they can either ship me a triple disc in a week and a half, or at least tell me if there is any chance the single disc in it now will survive at the track with the new motor. Crunch time... Ryan found a extra set of 16" steel rims and MT slick's off my friend Steve's Marauder that bolted right up to the Mark. Just need to get one inner tube replaced, and see what Steve will sell them to me for. I have not seen them, but Ryan said they have a spare tire look to them - just much wider than my 255's I had on the stock rims. Here is a link to some more photos:http://picasaweb.google.com/papapeac...76708149637698
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3rd Gear Poster
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kennesaw, GA
Car: 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Engine: Vortech 4.6
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Update - A lot has happened since lunch time today. The old motor is now torn down, and there is no obviously hurt pistons or valves found.
Aric is going to totally tear down the to the bare heads and block to see why there was compression loss in number 7 cylinder - not that it matters to me, but he wants to do it anyway. He was able to get a hold of Vickie at PI this afternoon, and she is going to ship me a new 3600 stall triple disc torque converter, while Aric boxed up my PI 3600 single disc TC and shipped it back to her today. Hope to see the new triple disc here next week! And, since the car is already taking up the lift, he is going to take out the Focus fuel pump and replace it with a Ford GT fuel pump to get that out of the way. I posted more pictures of the old motor in my prior post link, along with a picture of the Marauder slick that I am going to use at Fun Ford. 108k miles on the old motor in the pictures below. Mobil 1 oil since I purchased the car with 50k miles, and Royal Purple since supercharged at around 100k miles.
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man i wish i had that kind of money. id love to put some boost to the marquis!
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