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Where to buy ported manifolds?

Or should I just get JBA headers? I know they had a lot of problems but I've heard others say that they are fixed now. Before it's stated, I'm not going to get kooks because I've already had my exhaust system built and I don't want to change it again.

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If you want the best, mine came from www.braincoating.com

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i hear braincoating.com has an AWESOME set of ported manifolds

also available with ceramic coating.. i'll be getting a set comin up real soon


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prestons manifolds are the ticket, i'm making 435 hp at the motor with his manifolds in the dead heat, i could'nt be happier. www.braincoating.com

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Wow, I guess that answers my question! Nice to have a unanimous answer. What do a set of those run? I couldn't find pricing for ported manifolds anywhere on the site. Also, do they come with matching gaskets, or do the factory ones have enough extra space in them for the ports?

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there is an email link for estimation purposes

depends on how good the cores are, how much prepping and cleaning is needed, plus whatever coating you want done

give him a shout via the contact us link on the page


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the grinder guy at braincoating.com did an awesome job on my exhaust manifolds.




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Before it's stated, I'm not going to get kooks because I've already had my exhaust system built and I don't want to change it again.
whats done to your exhaust where it cant be changed? you want the best or just half assed?

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kooks aren't the best.. there are fabrication issues that some are finding, but what other choices do we have?

not saying these manifolds are better than kooks, cuz they aren't. but for the money, they are a damn good alternative


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It's not that it can't be changed. It's just a high quality job that I paid alot for already. Also I don't know how I'll be able to get the car to a exhaust shop without getting a ticket.

Thanks for the help guys, I've been talking to tbirdbrain via PMs. Hes very helpful.
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Dont waist your money on ported manifolds. That is just a larger hole in an inefficent system. Save up your money and buy headers. There worth the money.
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It's not that it can't be changed. It's just a high quality job that I paid alot for already. Also I don't know how I'll be able to get the car to a exhaust shop without getting a ticket.

Thanks for the help guys, I've been talking to tbirdbrain via PMs. Hes very helpful.
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Dont waist your money on ported manifolds. That is just a larger hole in an inefficent system. Save up your money and buy headers. There worth the money.
First off, this larger hole makes them more efficent, duh! ..............second, there are only two headers made for our cars, JB, which offer noise and no performance and kooks which offer some mild increase in performance but at a very unaffordable price, and they just arent worth the money when you look at performance increase to dollars spent, plus the fact that some have encountered fitting issues.........


But I'm sure with your 3 months of being on the forums and 14 posts we shouldnt question all your experience.............

We'll just forget all about the principles of increasing air flow and lowering resistance............cause pure physics means nothing

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Shadow, I have the kooks on my cougar. I can pull the engine out and put it in with the pipes on. There are no issues with them. Please speak facts. Are you a shill for brians coating. If you are, say so. The worst kind of sales man is one who knocks another product without any first hand knowledge.
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Shadow, I have the kooks on my cougar. I can pull the engine out and put it in with the pipes on. There are no issues with them. Please speak facts. Are you a shill for brians coating. If you are, say so. The worst kind of sales man is one who knocks another product without any first hand knowledge.

It sounds like you know an awful lot about about Braincoatings work

Its a cheaper alternative to the outragious cost of Kooks.


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War, I did not knock brianscoatings. I do know a little about cars. I know less about a computer. Are any modifications done the right way on these cars cheap? Do it right the first time. Then you don't have to pay for it twice.
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War, I did not knock brianscoatings. I do know a little about cars. I know less about a computer. Are any modifications done the right way on these cars cheap? Do it right the first time. Then you don't have to pay for it twice.
One other difference is that you have a 5.0 which is a smaller motor dimensionally, we have 4.6's wich are much wider than yours therefore giving us many clearance issues.

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My 95 cougar is a 4.6. I'm not knocking any business. But I speak from many years of trial and error. My 92 is a 466 scj. The 460 fits in the engine compartment better than the 4.6. Unless the manifolds from the 96/97 4.6 engines flow better than the 95/94 manifolds. I'm not here to argue. Just to offer help if wanted.
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Dont waist your money on ported manifolds. That is just a larger hole in an inefficent system. Save up your money and buy headers. There worth the money.
inst that just cute. Ask robertP how slow his car is with ported manifolds......mid 11s arent that quick, or are they. See, knocking prestons work without actually seeing it, isnt a very good thing to do. Ive seen said coated and ported manifolds. But also, its not nice to knock a local guy, especially when he can easily outrun you

i dont know anything about having my manifolds ported.....oh wait, I do I watched someone port them. But what you havent touched on is something very fundamental.......We have three options.

1. Ported oem manifolds, they work they dont crack and can be worked with.
2. JBA manifolds, notorious for cracking, dont show much of a power gain, have smaller runners than the exhaust ports, and for the work, dont yield much power.
3. Lastly, the Kooks headers and for a mildly modd'd motor, they typically wont do a lot, they are pricey, they do look good, but you better have a new starter.

So, crunch the numbers and see where you are at.

BTW, quite a few of us on this website know a thing or three about these cars, we speak from experience and informing us about stuff wont win us over.




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Shadow, I have the kooks on my cougar. I can pull the engine out and put it in with the pipes on. There are no issues with them. Please speak facts. Are you a shill for brians coating. If you are, say so. The worst kind of sales man is one who knocks another product without any first hand knowledge.
I do speak in fact, fact is I know people that have had fitting issues with kooks, just because you havent doesnt make it not so, fact is if you put it on the dyno, hp increase is not that much when you compare it dollar for dollar with ported manifolds...............

A shill, actually I havent had mine done yet, but just bought some manifolds to send to be ported................Fact is, I've had several friends that had theirs done and have been very pleased with the great looks and the performance..............Fact is, I've been speaking from facts..........

Another fact is, you seem to have shot something down without really knowing what your talking about...........

Just a side note, I'm not saying this is better than Kooks, because it isnt, but its a great alternative to people that cant afford Kooks


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TGO. I did not knock the manifold guy. I stated the facts. From what headers did to my car. Someone asked a question and I offered advice. I still stand by that advice. Don't hate the messanges, hate the message. By the way how much did you pay for your ported manifolds?
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TGO. I did not knock the manifold guy. I stated the facts. From what headers did to my car. Someone asked a question and I offered advice. I still stand by that advice. Don't hate the messanges, hate the message. By the way how much did you pay for your ported manifolds?

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price on ported manifolds varies based on condition of the core. if a lot of prep work is required, it obviously takes more time.. time = money (see post #6 in this thread)

also reference post #9 where i state that these are NOT better than kooks, but at less than half the price, a set of ceramic coated manifolds will net you a few extra ponies.

you can't knock a product without providing dyno information. if i could afford it, i would be more than happy to do a before and after of the manifolds.. but i cannot

i remember when Extrude Hone'd manifolds were the best alternative to JBgAy headers, except they cost as much as kooks midlengths do

the purpose of this thread was to ask where to purchase a set of ported manifolds or if it was worth the headache of JBAs.. compared to stock manifolds, JBAs, or ported manifolds.. i'll take the extra flow.. when my budget doesn't include a set of $700+ headers available from only ONE dealer.. plus a refab on the exhaust (another 150 or so depending).. i'll take a small gain over a mild gain and put that 800+ towards something else... like tires

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TGO. I did not knock the manifold guy. I stated the facts. From what headers did to my car. Someone asked a question and I offered advice. I still stand by that advice. Don't hate the messanges, hate the message. By the way how much did you pay for your ported manifolds?
in regards to this, you are stating an EVENT that YOUR VEHICLE EXPERIENCED. of COURSE kooks headers will gain, this has been proven, but without seeing a set of these manifolds personally in action, all you can offer is that kooks will provide a decent gain

I cannot say that they offer a great gain because i have not personally experienced it, hence my post: i hear braincoating.com has an AWESOME set of ported manifolds. when mine show up and i run with them, i'll be more than happy to share my experience


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Thanks for the info

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Been following this story for awhile Found these looks as if a bit of porting has been done. Fixing to have ceramic silver inside and out .. Thanks for the info guys

Also anyone with pics ?

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This sounds like the most effective route for a buildup short of an all-out, no holds-or-dollars-barred effort.

What is the diameter of the outlet port of the stock exhaust before porting and after porting?

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Nice looking OX thanks for the pic . Jon I did not take a measure before I took them to the shop this AM.

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