need quick answer on jba shorties - TCCoA Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-09-2010, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
need quick answer on jba shorties

there are some jba shorties that i want. my question is will the headers for the 99-04 gt fit the 4.6 bird ? are the exhaust ports the same on pi and non pi heads

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-09-2010, 10:05 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
dDUBb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Nor-Cal
Age: 38
Posts: 4,139
Garage
Yes .. but your steering shaft is in the way.
dDUBb is offline  
post #3 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-09-2010, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
i thought shorties were basically the same size as the stock manifolds

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-09-2010, 10:36 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,655
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
Yeah, and our stock manifolds are different from mustang manifolds.

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #5 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
so does anyone know what headers would fit ?

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
post #6 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:23 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,655
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
Kooks mid lengths from scp

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #7 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:48 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
i want the kooks but i dont have the money for them. im just looking for a shorty or ported manifolds for the moment

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
post #8 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:56 PM
PostWhore
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,716
Send a message via Yahoo to 94 Thunderbird XX
Quote:
Originally Posted by modularbird View Post
i want the kooks but i dont have the money for them. im just looking for a shorty or ported manifolds for the moment
Shorty headers are a waste.

As for "for the moment"......keep your manifolds until you can afford something closer to real headers.

Delete my account.
94 Thunderbird XX is offline  
post #9 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 01:58 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
NetKeym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,862
Shorties show up here quite often used at a $100 or less; just keep checking. I got mine off here for $100 and right after someone sold a set for $75. You know, if someone could fab up a good set of long tubes that would work with our MN12's, I'm sure they could stay stocked up with orders (I dunno, maybe not )! SCP moves quite a few mid-length Kooks, right?

I'm just saying.....

~Rick

TCCoA Sig
NetKeym is offline  
post #10 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 02:15 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
i think its stupid how few parts there are for tbirds and how many there are for mustangs with basically the same motor. its like the companies didnt even try. things like headers and good options for intakes are not only very hard to find but if you do find them they are likely going to cost you 100 dollars more at least than the corrosponding mustang part

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
unless you find them used from someone that needs the money with a bird

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
post #12 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 02:26 PM
PostWhore
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,716
Send a message via Yahoo to 94 Thunderbird XX
Quote:
Originally Posted by modularbird View Post
i think its stupid how few parts there are for tbirds and how many there are for mustangs with basically the same motor. its like the companies didnt even try. things like headers and good options for intakes are not only very hard to find but if you do find them they are likely going to cost you 100 dollars more at least than the corrosponding mustang part
Unfortunately that's part of the price paid for not having to say "me too".

The companies go where the money is...very few actually have some sort of allegiance to anything other than Camaros, Mustangs, Chevelles, Challengers, Camaros, Mustangs, etc.

Delete my account.
94 Thunderbird XX is offline  
post #13 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 02:30 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
NetKeym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by 94 Thunderbird XX View Post
Unfortunately that's part of the price paid for not having to say "me too".

The companies go where the money is...very few actually have some sort of allegiance to anything other than Camaros, Mustangs, Chevelles, Challengers, Camaros, Mustangs, etc.
True true, and the 4 year 94-97 run of 4.6L Thunderbird's aren't exactly collector items. Ford should have slapped Rally Sport, Super Sport, or Limited Edition on the sides of these cars, then demand would be higher LOL The SC's are a little more desireable..... Regardless, I like mine and really didn't give it much thought until I got one.

~Rick

TCCoA Sig
NetKeym is offline  
post #14 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 09:19 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,655
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
Paint on performance wouldn't have help these cars, they were pretty much marketed as a two door taurus from their inception, not as a mustang alternative.

The problem with the lack of aftermarket is the majority of the owners of these are fickle and run to the hills when they realize their "cheap V8" coupe isnt so cheap to mod. Companies like MAC, BBK, Pypes, ect. that push out huge volumes of headers for the mustang crowd arent about to make a pair for these when theres 4 people who will actually pay the extra cost for them.

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #15 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 09:51 PM
PostWhore
The AFDB is on a lil tight.
 
Splattered's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: is hot
Posts: 3,868
I remember the southern talking woman being on TV selling cougars when they were new cars. The marketing campaign for the mn12 was a half a$$ed affair since I can't remember what was selling the birds. I mean its funny how you can sell more cars if you hook people but its like they TRIED to make it sell less and less. Ford was done dumping money into the car after 93. Maybe because the stang was the money-maker-meat-n-potatoes(aka new sn95) they didn't want any public confusion when people wanted a rear drive coupe. I kinda like the fact an mn12 tbird is nothing else but a cat or bird. Interesting cars never stay around for long.

Spinning pies like wheels.

DD driving my 20 year old project

Now with new ball joints...again
Splattered is offline  
post #16 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,655
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
They're bread and butter was the trucks/SUV's, it cost a billion dollars to develop the MN12 and had a puny profit margin, it cost them comparably nothing to develop the SUV's (like putting a roof on the ranger and f150 was complicated) thus having a huge profit margin.

I don't think the MN12 ever was considered by Ford a threat to Mustang sales, especially in the time period when the probe was supposed to be the "new" mustang.

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #17 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:12 PM
PostWhore
The AFDB is on a lil tight.
 
Splattered's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: is hot
Posts: 3,868
LOL the mazda stang thats right they were really close to that being that stang. However they used that rehashed sn95 to a huge profit as well as the FAD of SUVs blowin up at that point. Even the probe got tossed like the mn12.

Spinning pies like wheels.

DD driving my 20 year old project

Now with new ball joints...again
Splattered is offline  
post #18 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:22 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
NetKeym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by XR7-4.6 View Post
They're bread and butter was the trucks/SUV's, it cost a billion dollars to develop the MN12 and had a puny profit margin, it cost them comparably nothing to develop the SUV's (like putting a roof on the ranger and f150 was complicated) thus having a huge profit margin.

I don't think the MN12 ever was considered by Ford a threat to Mustang sales, especially in the time period when the probe was supposed to be the "new" mustang.
Interesting trivia I once heard about the Probe: it was purposely phallic designed and shaped to attract female car buyers..... I'm not sure where I read that; I think one of the Trivial Pursuit games - no lie!

~Rick

TCCoA Sig
NetKeym is offline  
post #19 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:26 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
theterminator93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio
Age: 31
Posts: 9,064
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by NetKeym View Post
it was purposely phallic designed and shaped to attract female car buyers.....
I can believe that... I sure as heck never cared for them.

-Brandon
97 Laser Red Thunderbird LX 162k, Stage 2 4.6L 2v N/A | 300 BHP (255 RWHP, 290 RWTQ) | 13.95 @ 97.58 | Build details | Pics at the Lorain Assembly plant
98 Black Mark VIII 160k, stock daily driver
07 Redfire Fusion V6 SEL 178k, for the wife
Gone but not forgotten: 96 Mark VIII, 94 Cougar XR7, 93 Mark VIII

TCCoA's resident pilot since 2014
Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the world with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return. -Leonardo da Vinci
theterminator93 is offline  
post #20 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:33 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,655
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splattered View Post
LOL the mazda stang thats right they were really close to that being that stang. However they used that rehashed sn95 to a huge profit as well as the FAD of SUVs blowin up at that point. Even the probe got tossed like the mn12.
Well lets agree, Ford turned into major cheap asses in that time period

I think there were higher hopes for the Probe than the mn12's, these cars were doomed from the day they went overbudget in development. The probe at least had a complete reskin in its life cycle, the updates with the mn12 were ridiculously marginal, even the '94 restyling (which was basicly a smoother version of the 89 SC and 91 Cougar lol)

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
post #21 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-10-2010, 10:39 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
NetKeym's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 5,862
Omg

Anybody who needs to read any evidence of my previous statement need only to google phallic ford probe. Unbelievable..... Made me laugh.

~Rick

TCCoA Sig
NetKeym is offline  
post #22 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-11-2010, 01:30 AM
PostSlut
 
_95badbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Spring Texas
Age: 39
Posts: 13,597
what are yall talking about? there are plenty of aftermarket parts for these cars...I mean, look at my car for example?



Nick......................I'm back!!!
May you fly low and fast
rest in peace JL
_95badbird is offline  
post #23 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-13-2010, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
Boost!!!
 
modularbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gadsden, AL
Age: 32
Posts: 814
hey now

my dad drove a bone stock 89 probe gt turbo that my grandpa bought new in 88 and i loved it. it was quick too from what i remember... my grandpa topped it out at 138 mph. not bad for a 4 banger

Blake

1996 thunderbird lx (the silver slut)
http://forums.tccoa.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=387

modularbird is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TCCoA Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome