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wanting the loudest

ok guys so i have been doing research online and i have come across a couple of ideas. keep in mind i want the loudest and do not care about drone.

-i want to keep the best bang for the buck here also
-im goin with 2.5" pipe all the way and will have 2.5" high flow cats
-going true duals

1. to go with just a 2.5" di/do magnaflowor Flowmaster midmounted

2.go with 2 Flowtech Red Hots 2.5"x24" overall (midmounted)
http://www.performance-curve.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=861

3.go with 2 Dynomax Race Magnum Bullet's 2.5"x16.5" (midmounted or in back)
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0265&langId=-1


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2 and 3 look like glasspax (or w/e theyr called)
i think i read thouse make car really loud
but 1 would be loud too since it would be closer to the engine i think

if it was me id go with #1 because i think it would sound 'beefyer' then other 2
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thanks. if i go with the red hots im ognna put them midmounted, but if i get the dynomax id prob stick them in back cuz they'd sit being smaller and reduce drone, put all the sound in the back.

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anyone else have any opinions? im quite torn here lol

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high flow cats with straight pipes out the back........................................


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Yeah nothing at all would be loud, but sound like crap IMO.

I would go with a DI/DO muffler if I were you. Because they connect the left and right banks and work as an x-pipe. Which equals out exhaust flow. 2 in one sort of deal.

Plus they always sound nice and are pretty loud.

Glasspacks IMO end up sounding like crap when they wear out. Only sound good to me at idle and WOT. At normal driving sounds raspy, poppy and like an old beat down truck...LOL.

Secondly I'd go with the Dynomax Bullet mufflers (and for the record they are not glasspacks). I'd still mid mount them though and get an X-Pipe to put up front somewhere.

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Yeah nothing at all would be loud, but sound like crap IMO.

I would go with a DI/DO muffler if I were you. Because they connect the left and right banks and work as an x-pipe. Which equals out exhaust flow. 2 in one sort of deal.

Plus they always sound nice and are pretty loud.

Glasspacks IMO end up sounding like crap when they wear out. Only sound good to me at idle and WOT. At normal driving sounds raspy, poppy and like an old beat down truck...LOL.

Secondly I'd go with the Dynomax Bullet mufflers (and for the record they are not glasspacks). I'd still mid mount them though and get an X-Pipe to put up front somewhere.

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Good luck with whatever you go with. Should sound good either way.



with all that said i can see the point of the packs wearing out. thanks alot. so u think with the Bullets would be louder than the reg flowmaster or magnaflow muff and quieter then a regular glasspack?


is fo that sounds to be the fit for me, otherwise im leaning toard di/do Flowmaster midmounted unless ppl have disagreements.

it seems to be between midmount Flowmaster or the Dynomax Bullets

what ya think?

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high flow cats with straight pipes out the back........................................


you did say the loudest.
If he wants the LOUDEST, go with the high flow cats and exit out the side. Less pipe = more volume.

But it would sound like an old truck.

Loudest isn't necessarily the best sounding.


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I'm here to tell ya, the freaking bullets dumped are loud. IE, too loud for a daily drive IMHO. My setup is below, and with the Kooks, O/R X and Mac Flowpaths out back it was deep and nasty, but had a bad 2k-3k rpm rasp to it. I then put bullets dumped at the pumpkin, and it was viscious loud. I then decided to put them right after the x-pipe and it gave a deeper note, but got louder. The bullets are just too damn loud for a daily driver/street driver.

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anyone else have any opinions? im quite torn here
I have both the 5.0 LX and a SC - tuned and VERY fast. I have always liked LOUD and POWERFUL, until the other day I was in the LX getting on the onramp to the freeway when an old lady in a Lexus was riding my bumper. I punched the pedal to the floor, and the engine ROARED while I was pulled into the seat. I checked the rearview for the Lexus expecting a little dot behind me. Imagine my SHOCK as the Lexus FLEW by me as the two lanes merged into one! All I could see were the taillights ahead, and her car was whisper quiet as she shot by. I was TICKED! For the next few days I drove the SC because it is a LOT more powerful than the 5.0, and not quite as noisy until full throttle. I used every onramp I saw, but no takers. Then last night as I was crusing home at 55mph making the usual amount of exhaust noise, a BMW pulled up behind me fast, and then passed on my left because I was doing the speed limit. I stomped the gas to catch up with him and soon we were both doing 80mph. I will not risk a ticket at ANY speed faster than that, and when this guy got annoyed that I could pace him, he punched his pedal and disappeared instantly in the distance. Without making a sound. I guess my point is .... you don't HAVE to be noisy to have speed! Time to re-think the concept of HOWLING past an old lady in a Nissan Altima just to get the edge to the next stoplight.
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I have only heard the Bullets on a 99+ Stang and yes there were loud. But not as throaty as a DI/DO from my experience.

But I wouldn't say they were to loud for street use. But then again this is comeing from a guy who drove around with no exhaust at all after the first 2 cats for a few weeks. Now that was LOUD! And LOTS of drone and sounded like crap unless it was at WOT. But at WOT it sounded like a friggin nascar...LOL!

2Vbird, yours is going to be louder due to you having headers, a built engine with cams and dumped compared to a near stock engine. I'd love to hear what your Bird sounds like though.

EDIT, do you have cats?



And I can't stand a quiet V8 car. If it has a V8, it needs to be shown off IMO. V8s actually sound good with loud exhausts compared to altimas, BMWs, ect.


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i just got back from the exhaust shop, 2.5" until the diff, then 2.25" to make some nice bends to finish it off. high flows from scp, and dynomax bullets, 3.5" stainless tips to finish it off. its sounds mean!! i love it, i'll try to get some pics and sound clips up by the weekend. (might need some help getting the clips on as i've never done it before.)

edit: how is the best way to go about getting a sound clip?

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With a digital camera/camcorder or back in the day I took my laptop out and recorded a clip.

You can send them to me and I'll host them for you if you want. Other wise you can you http://www.streetfire.net/default.aspx or if you have your own webspace to upload the to.

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will it sound like crap with a computer mic? i have a mic i can hook to my laptop.
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It doesn't sound as good as when it's done with a digital camera. But it should do the trick. Just experiment with it until you get it to sound the best.

The closer you get the worse it sounds in my experience. It gets all muffled. So get like 15-20ft away and start from there.

Can't hurt to try it.

And also don't get directly behind the exhaust. I got the best results being diagonal from the rear end.


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cool, thanks for the info. that should be in a sticky!
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thanks alot guys. so from what u guys are saying the bullets will be good. prob be louder than di/do but quieter than a glasspack. yea i want grumble and loud but will sacrifice grumble for loudness. i LOVE loud but not like a truck if im driving a car lol

thanks again guys. since the bullets are small i might put them in the back.

you think the sound will differ if they are midmountedor in the back?

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Where they are located definitely makes a difference in how they sound.


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Where they are located definitely makes a difference in how they sound.
how will it differ?

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headers to 3.5'' single mandrel exhaust with a mid mounted bassani, to s single exit.

Loud as hell, it scares elderly and children.

Pair it with the deafening tone of a v1 supercharger and everybody wants to get a look.
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Tony, I've got a guy coming this weekend with a great digital vid, I'll send you an e-mail with the Macs and the bullets. And I don't have cats...

Also, I like the DI/DO, but I just like the chambered exhaust note. I'll lose a few HP to keep a musclecar sound. One thing I have considered is putting two Sweet-Thunder chambered mufflers under the car at about 16" long. I like the sound of them, but I am concerned about the decibels again. I simply can't see getting two chambered mufflers under the car to look decent and not scrape or tear off. I would love to put the Mac's back under the car in the center because they sound bad *** but I can't get them there for the gas tank.

Justin's setup sounds good, as I've got two guys down here in the south running a 3.5" single. They both have a very loud systems, one with a Borla XR1 and the other running a Dynomax Ultraflow round.

As I said earlier, when I moved the bullets to the front of the gas tank with pipes running to the pumpkin, the sound deepened, but still nothing compare to the Mac's.

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Tony, I've got a guy coming this weekend with a great digital vid, I'll send you an e-mail with the Macs and the bullets. And I don't have cats...

Also, I like the DI/DO, but I just like the chambered exhaust note. I'll lose a few HP to keep a musclecar sound. One thing I have considered is putting two Sweet-Thunder chambered mufflers under the car at about 16" long. I like the sound of them, but I am concerned about the decibels again. I simply can't see getting two chambered mufflers under the car to look decent and not scrape or tear off. I would love to put the Mac's back under the car in the center because they sound bad *** but I can't get them there for the gas tank.

Justin's setup sounds good, as I've got two guys down here in the south running a 3.5" single. They both have a very loud systems, one with a Borla XR1 and the other running a Dynomax Ultraflow round.

As I said earlier, when I moved the bullets to the front of the gas tank with pipes running to the pumpkin, the sound deepened, but still nothing compare to the Mac's.


you have a part number for the "Mac's"? so i can look into those.

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Loudest? run your exhaust dumping out the manifold lol. Loudest and BEST sounding.... no cats, straight pipe out the rear into 3'' tips.

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yea the only problem with ur guys saying no cats is that i HAVE TO have them for emmissions tests, so closest to no cats is highflows. i heard something about the Full Boar mufflers and had heard a clip of them, sound pretty beefy

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On my Mustang, I used to scare old ladies near the old folks home by revving the piss out of my engine near them... My friend's and I got a good laugh when 3 ladies jumped a good 5" off the ground hahaha! I may be evil but damn that was some funny stuff... Oh BTW: stright pipe from front to back stock H-pipe and gutted cats lol
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besides glass packs or straight pipes the loudest i know of are, in order of loudest of course;
1. mufflex
2. bassani
3. corsa

all of these would be completely custome installs as none of the stated companies produce kits for our cars. you could either modify a mustang kit or just buy the mufflers and mount them.
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heres the clip of mine. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...A27AA5F3C7.htm

i had some video showing the setup but it came out like crap since i was laying in the driveway trying to take it. i'll get some pics this weekend when i go to change my oil on the lift.

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Sounds nice!


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Sounds nice!

Tony, your exhaust is the best I've heard on any thunderbird.
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