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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-28-2006, 10:11 PM Thread Starter
 
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So, I am doing a research paper on Catalytic Converters, smog, and pollution control. My question to all of you:

Do You have Cat's On Your Cars?
Did you have them Removed, Were they Already?

If You do have them removed, how aware are you to what you are doing to the enviroment?
1 Being I just took them off - 10 Being I read about them ALOT and figured that the sound outweighed the amount of damage I could ever do to the enviroment.

Also, if anyone has a chart of States it's legal to have the Cat's taken off your car in, or which states have the most pollution testing done, that would be greatly helpful!
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...Also, if anyone has a chart of States it's legal to have the Cat's taken off your car in...
It is not legal to remove the cats in any state. Tampering with the emissions system is a federal offense, so while some states may not have any laws, the federal laws still apply.
With that being said... if you remove the cats in an area with no testing, who's gonna know?
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"With that being said... if you remove the cats in an area with no testing, who's gonna know?"

That seems to be the problem right there. A large portion of the United States doesn't even test for emissions. Even if they did, people who own cars with removable exhausts (mustangs) can swap an X or H pipe with cats on for testing then go right back to being catless after they pass. There is just no realistic way of enforcing emissions laws. We'll just have to wait for society to come up with a more efficient mode of transportation that is safer for the environment.

Until then...
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-29-2006, 10:24 AM
 
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yeah here in maryland around the TOLL roads they are started to do road side mirror checks as you go through...
itsscary... something like a 1500 dollar fine and they impound your car right theree
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yeah well cats cause N2O emmisions which isn't all that great for the environment either. I took mine off but I walk to work (in the same building where I live) so I basically don't even need a car and I don't use it very much.
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Jersey still has mandatory testing so that's why I had my cats done/replaced. For newer cars they have to be inspected every 4 years and older ones (I think more than 5 or 10 yrs old) every 2 years. Also, whenever you register a vehicle you have to get it inspected within a couple of weeks. (No matter if the sticker is still good on it)

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We'll just have to wait for society to come up with a more efficient mode of transportation that is safer for the environment.

Until then...
I just can't picture me with an electric car... I'd be getting the traction motors rewound, higher output batteries, etc. etc.

The removable/swapping exhaust is quite prevalent anywhere. I'm going to attempt long tube headers shortly, but am trying to figure out a way to get 2 cats stuffed under there-not a lot of room left.

Yes, I do have emissions testing, but I'd rather keep it legal (pronounced: "no hassles from the law"). Of course the Feds may start enforcing it more stringently - they've got to do something to keep busy... and illegal immigration sure isn't a priority.

GM was working on a hydrogren powered car that was pretty innovative. The entire drivetrain was in a chassis module only about 24" high. The engineers were calling it the "skateboard". Their plan was to just place different bodys and interiors on this common chassis. Haven't seen or heard anything about it for a couple of years though. Sad news is, even if they started selling them tomorrow where would you go to get a hydrogen fillup?

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I've still got the factory cats . . . and everytime I'm underneath the car, I want to strangle a Ford engineer. There's no reason why there can't be an exhaust that has good flow and still conforms to emmissions laws (eventually there will be on mine, but I believe in the "do it right, do it once" methodology).

As for emmissions laws . . . I won't move anywhere that has smog nazi laws. I just don't see the point in them.

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just wondering can you gut your cats and still get that deep sound
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just wondering can you gut your cats and still get that deep sound
Not on a 3.8

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Jersey still has mandatory testing so that's why I had my cats done/replaced. For newer cars they have to be inspected every 4 years and older ones (I think more than 5 or 10 yrs old) every 2 years. Also, whenever you register a vehicle you have to get it inspected within a couple of weeks. (No matter if the sticker is still good on it)
Well you're not entirely right about that one. When a car is sold brand new, the sticker that the dealership puts on it is good for 4 years. After that, the car needs to be inspected every 2 years just like every other car on the road. And if you buy a car that has a good inspection sticker, you are allowed to keep that sticker and just get the car inspected when that sticker expires. I know that cops will tell you that you have to get it inspected when you buy a car, and I have been told that several times myself, but they are simply wrong. As long as the sticker on the windshield isn't expired, there is nothing they can do about it.

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