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Hey i was wondering about turbo i have done a little seaching and was swondering what turbo to use,some of the posts said they used a volvo/saab turbo,is that just any volvo/saab turbo
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single or twin turbo setup? Is this for your 4.6? What kind of power are you wanting to put down? Traditional under hood setup or is this going to be remote mounted? Are you looking for lower range torque or high revving HP>? These are just some of the questions you need to think about.

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well i've got 200k on my motor,so low psi maybe 4-5,and i found a volvo turbo for $200,and just a little power,and remote turbo i guess,how much power do you think it would give me
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what kind of turbo is it? I'm just guessing its some kind of garret T3. Look for all the stamped markings on the turbo. There should be a .AR number on the turbine housing (exhaust side) and compressor housing (cold side) That will tell you a little more and also If you know the exact motor it came off of? Most likey its going to be too small just on its own unless you find a twin.

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how much did it cost you to do a twin setup,if you don't mind the question
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Before you undertake something like this, there are some things you'll need to know how to do. Can you cut and weld exhaust tubing? Can you handle lubricating it? Can you handle the added fuel needs? How much thought have you put into all this before you jump in? It's not an easy task....believe me, I know.

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how much will a turbo drop your fuel milage
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oh well what did you man by added fuel needs?
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what kinda turbo do you use for a single setup
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oh well what did you man by added fuel needs?
forcing more air down the gullet leans the mixture, you have to offset it by allowing more fuel in... ie, bigger pump and injectors


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would that be a problem just running 4-5 pis,or would i still have to upgrade
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If you have a 200K mile motor in the car....you don't really want to be messing with a turbo. It's not worth all the effort for a lousy 4 or 5 pounds of boost.

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i think it would be the coolest way to get,maybe 50-60 hp,an i though i saw on a thread that iron is better for forced induction,im not completely sure but i could do a pi head swap and have a decent engine .............i could have just said all those things that were wrong so,please correct me,but i like the idea of a turbo,even if just 4-5 psi,....oh and thanks for your input,any more will help
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Suggest going to turbomustangs.com and read up on what is involved to make the turbo system work. They have a good do it yourself forum that will also be helpful.

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thanks i will go there now
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i still don't know what size i can use what about this one







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You might want to go out and do some general turbo research, learn about compressor and turbine sizing etc, before you go shopping for turbos. That's how I'd approach it anyway.

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so what i read is that a to big of a turbo will take a long time to spool up(turbo lag),and to small of a turbo will no put enough psi.....is that right
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in a general sense of the whole thing. yes.


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i read a little on the turbomustang page an i kinda got a sense of it,so on of those small turbo(unless it had a twin )would be kinda useless so would a t3/t4 work or is that a small turbo


P.S. i know my questions are a little stupid to you guy,but hey,im learning...thanks a bunch
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Took me more than 1 year of research, I wanted to be informed before I started to drop loads of money to the cougar. You have to learn force induction before you make a decision to turbo your car. It's not as simple as it looks. Ive been working on my TT Cougar for 1 year now and still haven't finished it.
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For 50 or 60hp just use a small shot of nitrous and be done with it.

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Generally on a rear mount turbo you want a smaller .AR on the exhaust side than a traditional front mount setup. That turbo on ebay that you linked is most likely a junk Chinese turbo that may come apart. If you want to stay on a budget either go with a junkyard turbo(s) or check out master power turbos (Brazilian garret knock offs) They have good quality turbos that won't empty your pocket. For a rear mount you will need a scavenge pump to return the oil back to the motor. If you don't know how to fabricate expect to spend $$$$ at least 4-6K on even a mild setup.

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how much did it cost you to do a twin setup,if you don't mind the question
oh and my project is still in construction at almost 2 years now and the bill is still climbing. I belive I have spent about 700 so far but i still have tuning gear, fuel system and so on. That 700 is on a junkyard DIY project that isnt even done yet and Ive done all the work so far.

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I have 190, 000 mi on my 4.6 bird, and was gonna do a single remote mount setup too, running just 4-5 psi. I have a Borg-Warner GM-5 turbo, from a Chevy diesel that I was gonna use. But after researching, and doing a cost/work estimate, I decided I'm gonna sell the turbo, and buy some cheap nitrous. Easy to install, 50-75 horses.

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well $700 aint that bad,but you have bill to pay,i understand,but i haven't got much money at all,oh and what welder do you think would be a good one(for the future im no jumping in to this right away,im just gathering info).and thanks



p.s. i think nitrous is cheating,its for tuners who need it
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p.s. i think nitrous is cheating,its for tuners who need it

Tuners who need what? Another 60-70 hp? sound familiar?

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who need nos to keep up,just talkin bs there,just talkin smack about tuners
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