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anyone have any pics of a turbo'd thunderbird?

trying to get an idea of what i want to..
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Sir William had a project goin, now he's got a bigger project goin.
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You can probably use a Mustang fox body kit on your car.

I'm having a custom kit built right now for my 93 SC w/5.0 conversion. The company doing the work is called Forced Fab in Dayton OH. They are also doing another 5.0 Tbird and plan to offer kits after completing our cars.

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You can probably use a Mustang fox body kit on your car.

I'm having a custom kit built right now for my 93 SC w/5.0 conversion. The company doing the work is called Forced Fab in Dayton OH. They are also doing another 5.0 Tbird and plan to offer kits after completing our cars.

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here's some

SW has a turbo set up too, let me just find those pics...

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here they are
http://www.turbothunderbird.com/pics.php

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so how is the turbo in the back working out? is there alot of lag?
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Not really. I start building boost around 2700 and hit full boost by 3300 or so. It lags a bit off the line but all turbo cars without loose converters do that. dirtyd0g will fix me up there when the time comes.

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how high of a boost are you running?
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5lb spring in it now. I don't wanna go big til I upgrade fuel. I'll probably throw some bigger injectors on it then go to around 7lbs. I run that til I get a forged motor built. Then go for some real power.

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so its a stock motor? you can prolly run higher than that and still be save (around 10 or 11) or at least thats what ive been told........
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100% stock motor. Underdrives, MAF, tune & turbo. I'm still breathing through all 3 factory cats too. Granted I do have a wideband O2 sensor/gauge and SCT ProRacer Package to tune it with along with help from Lonnie to keep things lookin good.

You don't wanna go more than 6-8lbs on these motors stock. The ring lands just won't take it.

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well thats nice to know.... sooner or later i plan on running a single turbo havent really decided on the details yet the motor (302 not sure how many miles it has on it i think its somewere around 50k) is stock out of an f150 with a 2 barrel no cats just sidepipes i need to fix the tranny(aod) problem it has, it shifts early (in all gears) ive only drove it about 2 miles sence i put the motor in it (the car has been sitting for a year and the motor has been sitting for about 3)
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100% stock motor. Underdrives, MAF, tune & turbo. I'm still breathing through all 3 factory cats too.

No wonder you're gettin lag.

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Yup...and it runs GOOD now Chad. I wanted to see what it would do completely stock before I started really tinkering with it.

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Yup...and it runs GOOD now Chad. I wanted to see what it would do completely stock before I started really tinkering with it.


Shoot yeah man. Some kooks, high flow cats, and 3" mandrel back to the turbo and you will be in turbo heaven.

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Negative. ZERO need for anything other than ditching the cats. So long as the exhaust before the turbo is larger than the inlet to the turbo impeller itself, I'm good. That's the beauty of the turbo. A pipe can only flow as much as it's smallest restriction. In this case that's in the compressor housing at around 1.25". So 2" to 2.25" is just peachy. Why waste the money.

In fact larger pipe before the turbo would create MORE lag because the engine would have to pump more air into those big pipes before the pressure at the impeller was equal to the level of the smaller tubes.

After the turbo is already 3" mandrel bent...that one matters.

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that would be correct. bigger pipe slows it down. keep it small to get he exhuast back to the turbo at a higher speed to spin the impeller.

Sir Will, do you think its possible to get acouple turbos where the factory cats are. I've never had my car on a lift so I can't fully gauge it.
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97ThunderCat, I just don't see how. I've spent more time under the car with a turbo in my hands that most people and I just don't see where else you could stick it. There aren't enough options for placement.

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Negative. ZERO need for anything other than ditching the cats. So long as the exhaust before the turbo is larger than the inlet to the turbo impeller itself, I'm good. That's the beauty of the turbo. A pipe can only flow as much as it's smallest restriction. In this case that's in the compressor housing at around 1.25". So 2" to 2.25" is just peachy. Why waste the money.

In fact larger pipe before the turbo would create MORE lag because the engine would have to pump more air into those big pipes before the pressure at the impeller was equal to the level of the smaller tubes.

After the turbo is already 3" mandrel bent...that one matters.

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97ThunderCat, I just don't see how. I've spent more time under the car with a turbo in my hands that most people and I just don't see where else you could stick it. There aren't enough options for placement.
well aint that a *&^*^#. I graduate in may and hopefully will nab a job. once i do so i am going to hsoot for a tt setup. we shall see. may end up with a single. lol, like its a bad thing.
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well aint that a *&^*^#. I graduate in may and hopefully will nab a job. once i do so i am going to hsoot for a tt setup. we shall see. may end up with a single. lol, like its a bad thing.
You could cut a hole in your floor boards and have the first cab mounted turbo in a MN-12 !

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You could cut a hole in your floor boards and have the first cab mounted turbo in a MN-12 !

werd, anything is possible, just depends how crazy you want to get, cut the floor board and firewall and a TT setup should be easy

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You could cut a hole in your floor boards and have the first cab mounted turbo in a MN-12 !
Don't tempt me.
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Don't tempt me.
Hey now... don't try to pass blame on me !!

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Hey now... don't try to pass blame on me !!
lol, i can see it now. Watch your step as you get in, that plate over the turbo is about 500 degrees fereneit....zoinks.
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Sir Will,

Where the charge pipe runs to the front of the car, does it affect suspension travel at all? I would assume not, but just curious?
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Nope. Not in the least. The only time I had an issue was at Robert's when we had it on the lift. When the wheels went to full extension, it pulled one tube loose, but we adjusted how deep they were set in the silicone and it hasn't been an issue since. The silicone absorbs all the movement.

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Good stuff man.

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