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86" not so turbo coupe

Hi to all, Well I'm a newbee to this site and the owner of a not so turbo coupe. well first off my name is Darrell and I live in Washington state and just bought my first turbo coupe 2 weeks ago and am thinking I got more then I can handel with this car . I bought it and the guy I got it from got it from a tentit he had that owed him money and the guy pulled off the fuel injection system and put a 2-bbl carb and intake on it and left the turbo hooked up but not connected to anything - so it still boosts but is not hooked up to the intake since its a carburator and I'm having big problems finding the parts to put it back to the way it was. Now what I want to know is this somthing that can be done easyly or am I biting off more then I can chew or is it even worth it since all the hoses and tubing for the fuel injection have been removed or cut? I really need all the help I can get and another thig is that I have gone throught $80 of gas in the last 3 days just from driving around town so I am at a loss? Please Help !

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Forgot to mention that its a 2.3L 4-cyl.
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Sounds to me that someone removed the EFI instead of fixing some kind if issue with the system componet or computer. Those TC's still show up in yards from time to time but after you reinstall the missing pieces you're still going to have to diagnos the real problem. If it were me and as much as I like to see a original TC I would actually put a Windsor in it which is easy being a Fox chassis. As far a fuel consumption, without the turbo and going carburetor that low compression engine is struggling. However, if it where to be put back and fixed with some minor upgrades such as an 89-95(?) Ranger roller cam and move the intercooler the front instead of above the engine and some other simple mods they are quite surprising. I had an '86 2.3 turbo at 14 p.s.i in a '89 Ranger 2 wheel drive ,5 speed 3:73 track- loc , Iveco intercooler , 2.5" exhaust no cats ,no mufflers , no traction. If you wish to restore it make a list of what you think you need and post it. Maybe someone can locate the parts. Hope this helps. Also welcome to the forums !

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I'll add that either way (restore / upgrade to a Windsor motor, such as a 5.0 or a 5.0HO from that vintage), I'd be grabbing the service manual and the EVTM (Electrical Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual) off Ebay or from Helm Inc. ( www.helminc.com ). Amazingly, for the MN12 series at least, Helm's price is VERY affordable (under $30) for a new manual. Check there, then keep that in mind before buying one off Ebay for, say, $50 ...

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post #5 of 70 (permalink) Old 04-24-2013, 09:51 PM Thread Starter
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Thank's for the imfo and as it looks right now I think its not going to be worth while to try to put it back to fuel injection and i'll just scrap the car or try to sell it and get what I can out of it. It's a shame because it's a good car just to many problems. O well.
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You could probably part it out or even find a buyer for the chassis for some decent cash. The T3 alone is worth a couple hundred.

http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/ would be a place to start

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I would part it out. I have owned several turbo coupes. If you were closer, I could help you with it. There are fairly simple to work on. There are sources for new wiring harnesses, stand alones, you name it, its made for those cars.
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Ok I got a question? Can I boost through the 2-bbl carb (motorcraft 2150) or would I need to upgrade to a 2-bbl Holley? Can it even be done or is it just to many problems? My car has a automatic transmission so I know it's regulated to 10 pounds of boost max. I'll try to post pictures tomarrow.
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You will need a boost specific carb. With all the aftermarket parts that are available, I would convert it back to efi.
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Check out www.turboford.org. There is a wealth of info on that site for the turbo 2.3. You might be able to find the parts you need there too.
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Ok what would be considered a boost specific carb ? I've been looking at other sites but just keep drawing a blank on what there talking about?
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To be honest, I'm not a carb guy. I know guys that run them, they are not cheap from what I have been told. I was looking at the turboford site last night and saw that there were several guys selling stock parts. If it was my car, here is what I would do. First off, figure out what kind of fuel system is being used. Is it running off of the stock fuel pump with a regulator to bring the pressure down? I would convert it to AN lines, run a megasquirt stand alone ecu, gutted and rotated upper intake, and put a front mount on it intercooler on it. That would put you around 300 hp out of that little 2.3.
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Ok what would be considered a boost specific carb ? I've been looking at other sites but just keep drawing a blank on what there talking about?
For ages, carbs were vented to the atmosphere.

With the advent of super and turbo chargers, that doesn't work for a puffer design (blow through the carb, although it's perfectly fine for a sucker (between carb and intake), since you run a STRONG risk of blowing fuel out the vents.

A boost specific carb is sealed up so it can take more than 1 atmosphere of pressure at the airhorn.

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Ok I'll try to clear up some imfo on my car. It was origanly fuel injection , But then was converted to a 2-bbl carb running a motorcraft 2150 carb and a mechanical fuel pump and all the fuel injection stuff was removed or cut off the car and that includes the intank fuel pump. So theres no pressure regulators or anything else on the car . The o2 wiring was cut as well as most the important wiring , But the fuel injection plugs are still on the car and hooked up but other then that nothing else is there.
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Wow, the previous owner did one helluva hack job. Sounds to me like you would probably need a parts car. I'm gonna have to agree with Ralph on this one, might as well just drop in a carbed 5.0 at this point. But like I posted before, you can buy a brand new wiring harness for the car. It just depends on how much cash you want to throw at it.
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I really don't want to throw any more money at the car unless I can get the turbo hooked up right or atleast fully functional without having to go back to fuel injection and dumping a ton of money into it.
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Ford themselves couldn't get that motor to run or last worth a damn with a carb. That's the reason the 2.3 Turbo went on to become their first multiport system.

How much of the harness is hacked? It doesn't take a whole lot of wires to wire up a 4 cylinder from scratch, so running some new wiring to the injectors, and sensors wouldn't be too difficult of a task.

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Well the only wires (or plug in's) I can find are for the fuel injectors I would guess ? But other then that nothing. I would post pictures but dont know how on this site?
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I would post pictures but dont know how on this site?
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Well after much digging I have found all the wiring to put it back to fuel injection - The guy had them all zip tied and stuffed under the battery tray and ect so it's all there and I'm happy , But all I need now is to find a compleate intake setup so if anybody has one lyeing around let me know as I'm on a very limited budget.
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I'm telling you, check out turboford. There's a guy on there that has an upper intake for $30. I sold all my Turbo Coupe stuff, otherwise I would help you out.
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Will do Thanks v8nick !
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well I tried to join turboford site but they refussed because of my email provider , But thanks for the help.
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I have an 85, used to be turbo.

I got it with a 302 4bbl.

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well I tried to join turboford site but they refussed because of my email provider , But thanks for the help.
Yeah, they are a little uptight with the whole email thing. You could always get a secondary email account just for that site. It's honestly one ot the most informative sites for the turbo tbirs, cougars and mustangs. You could also check out turbotbird.com.
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Not sure what your pricerange is but I have been seeing this pop up on the local craigslist.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/pts/3740790607.html

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Thanks XR7-4.6 ! i sent an email so hoping for the best !
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Thanks v8nick - I'll try getting a new email account to get on the site.
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So I had somone offer me a $1,ooo for my car today and not shure if i should take it or not? What do you all think?
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Well I turned down the offer on my car and decided to keep it and just deal with the lousy gas milage , And am going to slowly gather the parts to put it back to stock - and who knows? Maybe do a few mods to get some more ponies
I'm thinking 350-450 H.P. ? What kind of mods do I need to get that amount of horse power?
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