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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-15-2004, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
 
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Shift Kit Installation

I decided to go out and buy a TransGo Shift Kit. I haven't got it yet, but I was reading the tech articles; am I going to need the things that are listed under it(accumulator pistons and such), or do they come with the kit? Also, how hard is installation? Seeing as how I've never done it before, how long will it take me?
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dont get a trans-go kit, do the j-mod instead. read up on it in the tranny section on the tech articles. the man who designed it knows these tranny's inside and out. of course he should he engineered it but anyway if you read those articles he will explain why not to use those aftermarket shift kits. basically they're bad for your tranny. one other quick thing, either method you choose you also might want to think about a tranny cooler.
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There is one major reason not to buy the Transgo kit:

EPC overpressure relief valve, I don't buy it, it seems worse than having an overpressure situation.

Do the JMod, it's easier, cheaper, and better.
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Alright, where do I go and buy the accumulator pistons and such? Would AutoZone have them or would I have to go to the Ford dealer?
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dealer. Should only be a few bucks. Don't forget the separator plate gaskets as well. That should be a dealer part as well. I got all of my parts from the local dealer, and spent maybe $35-ish bucks total. I would also call Dan Newman and see what he can do for you, if you can wait a few days for the shipping. He would prob. be able to give you a better price than the local stealership.

These are highly engineered precision vehicles, the first step in diagnosing the problem is to strike the suspected offending part sharply and repeatedly with a blunt object, then re-test.
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Alright, where do I go and buy the accumulator pistons and such? Would AutoZone have them or would I have to go to the Ford dealer?
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Will it shift as hard as it would with the hard setting on the TransGo? Chirping into 2nd is a must.
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uh, yeah, harder if you want it to, read the tech article. If you want it to shift really hard, go with the 450 HP level..

BTW, my parts were $28 from Dan Newman
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Is having it shift with the 450hp setting bad on the tranny at all?
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Also, I was reading this, and the guy says you need the new accumulators, but in the technical articles, it doesn't list that you need to get them. What should I do?
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I'd get em. They're cheap insurance. Plus the 94-95 tranny isn't known for it's strength from what I gather.

These are highly engineered precision vehicles, the first step in diagnosing the problem is to strike the suspected offending part sharply and repeatedly with a blunt object, then re-test.
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They are cheaper than the Mercon V that you are going to put in there, and if you do a search, the old accumulators are probably the 2nd highest culprit of tranny failures, after the torque converter on 94-95 cars. They are the easiest part of the JMod, especially if you don't mess with the OD servo.
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Okay, I think I have all the part numbers for everything I need. Tell me if I'm missing anything.


2 Seperator Plate Gaskets
Deep Sump Tranny Pan
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1-2 Accumulator Piston
1-2 Blue Return Spring
2-3 Accumulator Piston
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deep sump trans filter

These are highly engineered precision vehicles, the first step in diagnosing the problem is to strike the suspected offending part sharply and repeatedly with a blunt object, then re-test.
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15 quarts of Mercon V and the proper sized drillbits. I found the bits at Atwoods
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Oh, I thought I could just keep the same transmission filter. What size drillbits am I going to need for the 450hp setting? I've looked around and through the J-Mod articles but I haven't seen anything telling me that.
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So Fordman and Rich, I assume you have tried a Transgo or some other type of kit in your Birds? Since you seem to know they suck.


Nidex: with the deep sump pan you need a deep sump filter

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As a matter of fact, I have tried it in my AOD, and was told that it was bad for it as well, as I was having it rebuilt. So when it came time to do work on the bird, I just followed what I had been told by countless people on this board, to do the J-mod and be done with it. So far, no problems. I have not tried it in a 4R70W, and will not. I cannot afford to guess if it is actually bad for my trans. I know the J-Mod works, so that's what I went with. If someone else has installed the Trans-Go kit and had no issues, then more power to them. To each their own. I was offering an opinion, therefore it should not be taken as "the" word. Just a suggestion. It's his tranny, so it's really up to him what he does.

These are highly engineered precision vehicles, the first step in diagnosing the problem is to strike the suspected offending part sharply and repeatedly with a blunt object, then re-test.
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Well, my first transmission had a Trans-No-Go kit in it, and when I tore it apart, the transmission failure was DIRECTLY related to the failure of the EPC Overpressure valve, which after studying a little more on the hydraulics of the transmission, has NO BUSINESS IN ANY TRANSMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW: I had a Trans-Go kit in my Trans Am with the 4L60, and it was great, it's just the 4R70W kit that I have a problem with, mainly the Overpressure valve. Get the JMod, your tranny will live a lot longer.

Don't forget a good heavy duty tranny cooler also, didn't see that listed anywhere.

Drill Bit Sizes for 450-600 level:

Hole 1: .160
hole 2: .125
hole 3: .180
hole 4: .125
hole 5: .125
hole 6: .160
hole 7: .125
hole 8: .238
hole 9: .100
hole 10: .100
hole 11: .100

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That really helps, thanks alot!
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look I know you guys are always plugging the J-mod and all but I really need to know what shift kit to use otherwise! There is no way in hell I'm doing any J-mod myslelf... actually I swear to never open a VB in my life. Anyway, there is no one around me (Canada eh) to do J-mod and if I buy a shift kit I can get my local tranny shop to do it and keep my waranty!!

I've heard lots of bad things about the Trans-go so I know not to go there... but out of the B&M or Bauman what would you guys say?? I've read many articles and some say this is better and others say that is better....

I really want to go w. the Bauman since it seems like Ford AOD / AODEs is their forte.... but it is more expensive than a B&M.

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I'm confused about the accumulator and accumulator piston thing. I saw nowhere in Jerry's article (haven't read all of A-Train's) where it mentioned getting new pistons. Now I do have accumulators 1-2 (F7AZ-7F251-AA) and 2-3 (F7AZ-7H292-AB) on my list of parts to buy. Are these perhaps really the pistons, or am I supposed to buy both the accumulators and pistons? I want to make sure I get this right since I'll be buying next week probably.

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MN12Bird: Actually for the 4R70W the Transgo is "supposed" to be one of the better none Jmod shift kits. I believe Jerry has said this before.....
I know there are few people here are running a B&M and love it. Nothing wrong with it, everything working fine. good B&M thread here

Once you sift through all the crap, you can get some good info. Alex did a very good right up of his experience with the kit, as well as what all was involved with it.
Just too many people commenting on something they have never tried, which is total bull****.

The Jmod is pretty straight forward. If that's what you want, then just print out the articles and go over them with a tranny shop. Tell them you'll bring them all the parts.

kenshi: A-Trains article is what you wanna look at as far as dong the Jmod. All the part numbers and everything you need is written in there.

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I'd agree, the Trans-Go is probably 2nd best, but believe it or not, the Trans-Go kit is harder to put in than the JMod. The JMod is so easy, you won't believe it. Once you get the pan off, and have the directions in hand, it'll all make sense.
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Like Fordmann77 said. Make sure you get the deep sump filter. NAPA gave me the AODE filter without the extended pickup neck. Part# 1-9730. They didn't show one for the deep pan. I got the 4wd version part #1-9751. It has the pickup neck.
Would the AODE version have sucked air instead of fluid?
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