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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-16-2004, 02:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Inside your AOD. Bunch of pics and Good Info!

Since I can't post it here or on SCCoA for that matter due to the number of pictures, you'll all have to go HERE to see it..

Questions or comments I'll be checkin in!

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Nice write up and good pics too.
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post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-19-2004, 09:07 PM
 
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how di you remove the front pump assembly? does any slide hammer work?
and what are the most essential tools to use other than the clutch compressor?
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post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 04-20-2004, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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you need two slide hammers and the special adaptors to fit the pump body.

The main thing you need is the lip seal installers.. They are about $90...

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what adapter might that be??? thx
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They are part of the Ford Rotunda AOD tool kit.

I got a kit second hand, and they don't sell them new anymore.. If you were to do it yourself and didn't have the kit, you can take it to a local trans shop and they will do it for like $5, or maybe even free..
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cool, am good at finding hard to find items, anyways man thanks a lot about the response, I dont mean to be annoying, I just had my aod half disassembled, for a while and I think is time I finish what I started, seeing someone else saying it isnt as difficult as peeps make it seem, its an inspiration.
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Well depending on how much of a PITA your front pump might be, you could try my "ghetto" method.. hehe..

Before I had the kit, I successfully disassembled an AOD by screwing in two 10mm bolts (I ~think~ they were 10mm anyway), with a washer and a chain (like swingset chain from a hardware store).. I then took pulled the chain taut, grabbed a brick and used the brick to break the pump free.

Basically the brick tugged on the chain, which pulled on both sides of the pump.

I know, its ghetto, but it worked..

lemme know if you have any more questions.. I'm happy to help.
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for a second there I thought you beat your AOD to submission with that brick hehe, ama try that tomorrow. so what does the kit include anyways? any ideas where I might find one?
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It includes a lot of stuff.. Bushing removers and installers, valve body guide pins, endplay checkers, lip seal installers, etc..
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That is very informative, def should get it together and submit a tech article if you have the time.

How in the hell did that input shaft get smooth and have no teeth on it????? that is crazy.

I have an old AOD i want to attempt to rebuild as a backup trann, but I dont want to spend the big bucks for a shop to do it.

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yo bro, seems to me the oil pump is really gonna be a pita, any way you can give me a part number for the slide hammer adapter?thx man
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Link dead. You move it somewhere else?

I'm researching what I need to do my own.
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post #14 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-15-2004, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
 
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repost HERE


Thanks for letting me know. Email me if you ever have any questions on the trans stuff..
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This will come in real handy. I might be in touch when I get down to it.

Thanks.
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I can probably turn this into a technical article if you would like. I have pulled down the entire link and pics. Let me know.
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That would be cool to have this as a tech article! You may use all the pictures and info, just please credit me for creation.. I put a lot of work into that!

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Absolutely. When I am done I will put where you can get to it before I make it public.

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I'm always happy to help! I've rebuilt 4r70w's too! They are nearly identicle mechanically to the AOD, with a few design/feature changes..
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Good write-up.
The only things that may be of a future issue in that trans are the Kevlar OD band,and those super thin steels in the Direct clutch pack.
The problem is the heat needing to be shed by the direct on a WOT 2-3 upshift-esp in a 3800+ lb car.The thinner steels are not up to that task over the long term,and will burn the clutch frictions over time.
It would have also been nice to upgrade to the 4 plate type intermediate instead of the 3-plate-it has alot more capacity.
Other than that..looks like you've done a good job.
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If I were to do this again, I would use the 99+ frictions. This rebuild was planned for a stock SC, and was originally intended as a stock rebuild.

I found a good deal on the clutch pack, and did some affordable upgrading.

The only part I would edit now, is the statement I made "as strong as any lentech"

Even with a hard lockup shaft, I feel the only way to gain reliable long term strength behind a big bad motor in these is to go non-lockup on an AOD, or do an electronic conversion where the lockup is in the tq converter.
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It'd be nice if you'd show the bushings and bearings that go between the clutch packs you mentioned, just for completeness of the writeup, but you've already assembled it, so I guess thats kinda bunk.

Good job though!

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Quote:
Originally posted by 92bird
They are part of the Ford Rotunda AOD tool kit.

I got a kit second hand, and they don't sell them new anymore.. If you were to do it yourself and didn't have the kit, you can take it to a local trans shop and they will do it for like $5, or maybe even free..
Atec trans tool sells these tools http://www.atec-trans-tool.com/

If you want I will get you some internal pics of the torque converter.

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Well I am starting another rebuild here soon, so I can probably do that!

good news about the tools
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