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Question J-Modders on Crack? Interesting words from a Ford Mechanic...

Well, after my frusterating defeat vs. the transmission cooler, I was supposed to go to the movies with my girlfriend and see the Punisher; however, even this did not happen.. (which was not cool!)

Anyways, more to the point. She needed her oil filter to be taken off, since her dad screwed on there so tight I couldn't get it off when I changed the oil, so Krista (my g/f) took it to their neighbor (Roger), who is a Ford Mechanic to do the job.

I was cruising around at the time, but when over 30 minutes passed of cruising, and she still had not called I decided to go over there.

I walk into his garage, he is working a 94-96 GT Mustang (had a 5.0 in it, but was not the Fox Body of the early 90s) and he had the transmission of it on the table, working on it. It seems Krista had told Roger that I was installing a transmission cooler in the car, and of course I was embarassed. I thought I'd have it done by 1 p.m. Seeing that I started at 11. Anyways, he tells me how Ford makes a transmission cooler kit and that I should of gotten that one. I told him why I was putting it on (better for the trans, and extends life). He claims (this is where he begins to tear me apart), Ford transmissions break for 2 reasons: Fluid, and an internal mechanical flaw. The only way it can be fixed is by fixing the mechanical flaw with new parts. A transmission cooler helps, but not that much.

So this is when I spoke of the J-Mod and how a lot of Mustang/T-Bird owners do it to their car to provide firmer shifts (I may of incorrectly said a few things, seeing that I do not know much about the J-Mod). I told him that they take apart the transmission, add new parts (I did mention like a Mark VIII pan, which I thought was in the J-Mod), to strengthen the tranny and make it more like a Mark VIII transmission (or more powerful, can't remember which I said).

He claims that: "They [those who J-mod] are on crack." and that shift kits are the way to go, since he installs them all the time. His transmission in his 03 FX Level II is supposed to be the sh*t or something (he was speaking highly about it, I can't remember exactly what was said. About this time, I was getting pissed).

Either way, I left shortly afterwards (I was pretty pissed), he keeps my g/f late ( I guess unscrewing a filter with a tool takes too damn long ), we miss The Punisher completely, and I have to put up with her defending him.

So.. are all you J-Modders on crack? Or am I on crack in thinking that aftermarket products on my T-Bird are worthwhile?

Let me know.

(Sorry for the long post, I just think it's crap that everywhere I freakin' look I get shot down or told how I am wasting my money. For ten or twenty minutes, I was like... Screw modding, I should stop before I spend too much, but now it makes me only want to modify my car more, so I can spank his FX Level II)
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I'm a J-modder, on crack. Obviously the man is a complete fool.
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please tell up which dealership he works at so we can avoid this village idiot.
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please tell up which dealership he works at so we can avoid this village idiot.
Not really sure to be honest. To me it seems like he's working 24/7, by recommending nothing but Ford stuff to put on a Ford (aka. Aftermarket is bad).
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dont have a J-modable model thunderbird myself (kinda wish I did) so I cant personally vouch for it... but didnt Jerry design the damn transmission? I'm willing to bet he knows what hes talking about.

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The J-Mod doesn't have anything to do with making a transmission more like a Mark VIII trans...heck the j-mod should be done to a Mark transmission. The major portion of the J-Mod is drilling larger holes into the separator plate which will permit fluid to flow faster.

I'd trust the engineer who designed the transmission a heck of a lot sooner than this guy. I'd also recommend that you go over to MD and find threads where Jerry himself specifically talks about Transgo kits and why they suck.

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The J-Mod doesn't have anything to do with making a transmission more like a Mark VIII trans...heck the j-mod should be done to a Mark transmission. The major portion of the J-Mod is drilling larger holes into the separator plate which will permit fluid to flow faster.

I'd trust the engineer who designed the transmission a heck of a lot sooner than this guy. I'd also recommend that you go over to MD and find threads where Jerry himself specifically talks about Transgo kits and why they suck.
Well, who is this Jerry guy anyway? I know he designed the modification, but exactly who he is? A Ford mechanic?
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Jerry put the 4r70w on the earth.
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And the JMod does use all factory Ford parts, so tell the guy to shove it.
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Well, who is this Jerry guy anyway? I know he designed the modification, but exactly who he is? A Ford mechanic?
Former Ford drivetrain engineer. He was on the team that, as Eric said, designed the 4R70W transmission.

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dude.... why you let her stay over there BY HERSELF that long?? wtf?? what kind of car she have?? even on the TBIRD it don't take no more than an hour to swap the oil filter... even if it is hot... now my sister's old ZX2.. f-that.. can barely reach the stupid thing it is so high up...
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dude.... why you let her stay over there BY HERSELF that long?? wtf?? what kind of car she have?? even on the TBIRD it don't take no more than an hour to swap the oil filter... even if it is hot... now my sister's old ZX2.. f-that.. can barely reach the stupid thing it is so high up...
I'll tell you what man, in my 1996 Cavalier it was a true bastard to replace that oil filter. I never did it, I took it to an oil changer shop because it was so much trouble.
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I'm on crack and a dealer.

Ask him if he wants a ride in a jmodded mark and I show him a tire smokin lincoln.

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I agree with that sentiment too. I'll pit my 97 tbird with 3.73s and a jmod against an identically equipped car with his 'magic shift kit' any day.

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Supposedly the man I am talking about visists the forums here occasionally, if he decides to respond to this, I hope we get this cleared up. He knows who I am, so if he posts here, feel free to contact me in person.
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He doesnt post here any more, but you can find him on MD... maybe he still browses here though.

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He doesnt post here any more, but you can find him on MD... maybe he still browses here though.
Why would you say that?
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He doesnt post here any more, but you can find him on MD... maybe he still browses here though.
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I think it's obvious that you don't have a clue what your talking about and think your Ford tech pal didn't care to engage in a real conversation with you.

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Supposedly the man I am talking about visists the forums here occasionally, if he decides to respond to this, I hope we get this cleared up. He knows who I am, so if he posts here, feel free to contact me in person.
Metalbassist03, who is this guy( IDIOT ) you are talking about?

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This is what I heard from my girlfriend... That he visits / posts here occasionally, I do not know his SN or anything.


The only T-Bird related thing he has is a Cougar that is REALLY old in a drag racing setup. He owns a 2003 (or 2002) Ford F-150 FX4 Level II. He used to own a SVT Lightning, and I have never seen his Cougar move.

Yes, I wasn't real educated in J-Modding (still not)... Since I'm not focusing on it for the time being; however, I was trying to defend my name, and everyone else.. I just did a sh*tty job at it. Sorry guys....

Either way, I have come to the conclusion it really does not matter what this man says, we have numbers to prove him wrong. I have seen what the J-Mod does to the T-Bird (videos on here). He is a good mechanic, I will not deny that, but when it comes to modifcation of the 4R70W, let alone anything outside the F-150, I believe he needs to do research in it before he makes statements like that.

And just like all mechanics, I was getting treated like I am stupid. I mean sh*t, I may not be able to break a tranny down and rebulid it, or put in a transmission cooler without a lot of help, but I do know terms, I'm willing to learn, and for not having ANY prior experience, I think I'm doing pretty damn good. I can't help it I didn't have a Dad or anyone in my family that loves cars as much as I do now when I was a child to teach me the ropes.

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He said he's done a lot of shift kits and they helped. You should have asked him how many j-mods he has done.

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He said he's done a lot of shift kits and they helped. You should have asked him how many j-mods he has done.
When I told him about it.. He said he never heard of it.
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Then he must NEVER have visited this site.
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Then he must NEVER have visited this site.
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