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Wheel adaptors...

this might be an odd question and if so, dont flame me too bad, but will wheel adaptors like these work on T-birds so I can get wheels that are in 5 x 4.5 or 5 x 4.75 sizes. I dont wanna hassle with changing out the factory 4.25s so if these work, I'll end up doing this so I can get some different wheels.

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Will they work? Probably. Would I use them? no. They'd move your wheel out at least an inch, so you'd have to find wheels that had the correct offset to compensate for the adapter. And I'm not sure of the safety either.

If you want to use 5x4.50" wheels you can do a hub swap. Use 99-04 Mustang hubs in front, and Cobra hubs in rear (The cobras that have IRS). Its supposed to be a pretty simple swap, there are several on here who have done it.


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Will they work? Probably. Would I use them? no. They'd move your wheel out at least an inch, so you'd have to find wheels that had the correct offset to compensate for the adapter. And I'm not sure of the safety either.

If you want to use 5x4.50" wheels you can do a hub swap. Use 99-04 Mustang hubs in front, and Cobra hubs in rear (The cobras that have IRS). Its supposed to be a pretty simple swap, there are several on here who have done it.


yeah, but thats more hassle than I want to deal with. I know thats not hard, but again, i'm just lazy. I get to repaint the damn car AGAIN so thats enough work as it is. I found a company that makes these in a smaller offest (not nearly as wide as these on ebay-that was just an example.

This guy makes 3/4 spacers that are not that expensive. I figure if I can get the wheels with the correct offset, then these should work.
http://www.skulte.com/index.php/cPath/21
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I don't get it....Why ask if you already have your mind made up???

Its not really necessary...For what they cost you can do a hubswap or simply purchase wheels already casted for the Tbird.

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I don't get it....Why ask if you already have your mind made up???

Its not really necessary...For what they cost you can do a hubswap or simply purchase wheels already casted for the Tbird.

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well, I didnt say my mind was totally made up. If I have to change out the spindles, I will. I've got the resources to do it but its just not something I want to hassle with. I'd rather invest money elsewhere on the car. If I dont go with this, I found some Centerline wheels that are made for our birds but they are 15s so I'll just lower the car.
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I know this is an old post but I'm gonna bring it back from the dead to add a point. Spacers are used in many off-road and racing applications. Make sure that you tighten these to at least 100ft/lbs of torque. Put some Loctite in your factory studs to prevent the adaptor lug nuts from backing off. Remember that if you are using an adaptor that adds a new set of studs, you may run into one problem...your factory studs are 1.5" long...your adaptor may be 3/4" or 1 1/4"...so you need to cut the extra off so the wheel will mount flush. To do this, measure out your new length. Mark it. Screw your lugs on. Use a cut-off wheel to shave off the tip. Then unscrew your lug nuts. This will rethread the tip and remove any burrs. A lot of people overlook this step when considering adaptors. Don't be scared just because you have never done it.

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These adapters are total weak sauce for these cars. They push the wheel outside of the fenderline making the fit less than desirable for most enthusiests of this car.

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And if loctite is the only thing preventing you from certain death it's not a good idea.

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And if loctite is the only thing preventing you from certain death it's not a good idea.
Well that was a pretty naive thing to say. Do you use Loctite in your studs? No. Do your wheels fall off? Hopefully not. Is it required? No. The only thing that keeps you and a person with wheel adaptors from impending death is a torque wrench. Now as to the undesirable widened stance...I have no comment because I have never seen them on a Bird.

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There are a few aftermarket very high offset 5 on 114.3 mm wheels available now, intended for specific Asian car applications that require them. So it is possible to get the tires tucked under with bolt-on adapters on an MN-12, it would just require some research and proper parts selection.


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There are a few aftermarket very high offset 5 on 114.3 mm wheels available now, intended for specific Asian car applications that require them. So it is possible to get the tires tucked under with bolt-on adapters on an MN-12, it would just require some research and proper parts selection.


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And that would be a great recipe/description of cobbled up junk. The individual would have more money wrapped up into the setup than the cost of a hubswap & wheels or something else that was actually meant to bolt on to the car.

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That's it exactly ... in the end it makes more sense to do it properly, either change the bolt pattern on the car, or get wheels with 5 on 108 pattern. As with many things in life, just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you should.


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just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you should.


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Anybody looking for info on offset...Google "wheel offset calculator." It let's you compare your old wheel to the new wheel including width and offset. Then it calculates inner and outer clearances. As far as price goes...adaptors are cheapest, then redrilling hubs and rotors/drums, then hub swap. As far as safety goes...hub swap, redrill, adaptors. Pick your poison. If I had the cash to do the hubswap, I would certainly do it. But last time I checked, it costs over $2k. That's a lot of money to spend just to drop another $2k on rims.

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Try again. I spent just under $1600 for my hubswap parts, wheels and tires together BRAND NEW from Ford.

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Yea...Or just spend a whopping $680 on a set of 18X9 painted speedstars or Talon/Racecrafts. DONE!!

Adapters should not even be considered an option IMO. If thats the way someone insists they need to go then they need medication.

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