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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
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Bought tires, hate them, need suggestions

I put Goodyear eagle GT-HR's on my car and HATE them. The sidewalls flex badly, almost like the tires are low on air. The car wants to fishtail if I have to swerve at highway speeds. I purchased these tires at discount tire and they have a 30day exchange policy and I am going to exercise it! I am looking for a decent treadwear tire with a stiff sidewall. I figured that I would ask you guys because you have the same car as me. Please offer any suggestions. BTW tire size is 235-60-16 (or I may use 225-60-16 due to bigger selection).

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I just installed a set of Falken Ziex ZE-512 in that size and am pretty pleased so far. They stick like glue in both wet and dry. I don't think you will find many ultra stiff sidewall tires in this size however.
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I just installed a set of Falken Ziex ZE-512 in that size and am pretty pleased so far. They stick like glue in both wet and dry. I don't think you will find many ultra stiff sidewall tires in this size however.
I read some reviews about this tire (Falken Ziex ZE-512 ) and seen several complaints about soft sidewalls. I realize that I will not find super stiff sidewalls but these goodyears that I bought feel like they are designed for luxury cars. The last two sets of tires that I had were goodyears (eagle GT II and eagle HP) and they were great. I don't know what goodyear was thinking marketing the eagle GT-HR as high performance. My pickup truck has dayton qudra se (205-75-14) that handles better than these sorry goodyears!

BTW, I would prefer all season tires but would try summer tires since it rarely snows here.
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I will say that I like them best with the pressure really high, I want to say in the upper 40 range. IMHO if you are looking for the best corner carving tires you need to look at 17 or larger wheels anymore. You can only find so much for a 16 x 7 wheel these days.
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Bridgestone Fuzion HRi's. 225/60R16

I have a set of those on our 95 with SC wheels and they handle quite well. They have very nice, stiff sidewalls. You will be pleased.

I personally had a set of Goodyear FIERCE UHPs and they were PHENOMENAL. Try the FIERCE set of Goodyear tires. Another option is the Bridgestone Fuzion ZRi's. A friend tried those and LOVED them. He regrets having to change once he figured out that they would NOT work at his 2nd house in Tahoe.

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i got Nitto NT 450 in a 245-50-16 on 89-92 sport rims and i love em, only problem is the 330 treadwear rating...and my right foot
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I read some reviews about this tire (Falken Ziex ZE-512 ) and seen several complaints about soft sidewalls. I realize that I will not find super stiff sidewalls but these goodyears that I bought feel like they are designed for luxury cars. The last two sets of tires that I had were goodyears (eagle GT II and eagle HP) and they were great. I don't know what goodyear was thinking marketing the eagle GT-HR as high performance. My pickup truck has dayton qudra se (205-75-14) that handles better than these sorry goodyears!

BTW, I would prefer all season tires but would try summer tires since it rarely snows here.
I am glad you brought them up. I love my Dayton's. Sometimes cheap is not bad.
I am running 70 series but compared to the BFGoodriches the Dayton's are sweet. What width of wheel are you running?

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Bridgestone Fuzion HRi's. 225/60R16

I have a set of those on our 95 with SC wheels and they handle quite well. They have very nice, stiff sidewalls. You will be pleased.

I personally had a set of Goodyear FIERCE UHPs and they were PHENOMENAL. Try the FIERCE set of Goodyear tires. Another option is the Bridgestone Fuzion ZRi's. A friend tried those and LOVED them. He regrets having to change once he figured out that they would NOT work at his 2nd house in Tahoe.

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i'm running the fuzion zri now and it sucks. daily driving doesn't tell it but once you hit autocross you'll feel the sidewall flex a lot more than the bfgoodridge kdws. dry grip wise the fuzion is a tab better than the kdws but threadwear on the fuzion is also a lot lower.

once my fuzion wear out i'll switching back to kdws.

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Try a set of Goodyear ResponsEdge tires if your wanting to stick with Goodyears. I've heard they are nice and stiff (and a lil bit noisy too mind you)...

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Sport truck tires??

I found these General Grabber UHP tires. Looks like a good price and has good reviews, but it it claimed to be a sport truck tire. What is a sport truck tire and can it be used on a car?

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...t=null&rf=true


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The Falken Ziex 512's are definitely NOT soft in the sidewalls. You'll see what I mean if you mount them yourself. I had them in 235/60-16 and I currently have them in 255/50-16, on stock SC wheels. The 255/50's were a PITA to mount, but it was worth it, IMHO. Nice and fat, but they fit well. They have a slightly shorter than stock height, but if you have Eibach's like mine, it looks just right. Again, my opinion.

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I almost ordered the General UHP's (wish I had now)
but got the Dunlop Sport Maxx instead.

Handles great, ride is good for 245/45/18 but NTB can't get the shake out of them.

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The Falken Ziex 512's are definitely NOT soft in the sidewalls. You'll see what I mean if you mount them yourself.

I was kinda thinking that with my "calibrated" finger into the side of the sidewall before mounting technique. Without any real data its all opinion of course.
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I have the Kumho Ecsta AST (High Performance All-Season) 245/50/16 treadwear 400

Tirerack.com shipped to my house in Florida $280 for all 4.

I love them they ride and handle great and look aggresive and GREAT PRICE!!
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The sidewalls on the Falken Ziex 512s seems to vary. I have had many sets. The 245/50-16 W rated was pretty thin, where 245/50-16 H rated were thicker. The last set I put on was 255/50-16 W rated and also were thicker like the 245 H rated. The guy mounting them commented on they were tough to put on, had to use lots of slick-em.
Go figure, or maybe they changed them. The thin sidewalls were the oldest of all the sets.
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The Falken Ziex 512's are definitely NOT soft in the sidewalls. You'll see what I mean if you mount them yourself. I had them in 235/60-16 and I currently have them in 255/50-16, on stock SC wheels. The 255/50's were a PITA to mount, but it was worth it, IMHO. Nice and fat, but they fit well. They have a slightly shorter than stock height, but if you have Eibach's like mine, it looks just right. Again, my opinion.
my Falken 512s felt way softer in the sidewall than my BFG g-force Sports.




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I finally replaced the Goodyears (junk) for Kumho Ecsta ASX. The car now handles much better. I just cannot believe how skinny they are though.
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I went with the General Exclaim UHP. Seem to stick well and hold up in the rain. The treadwear rating if I remember right was in the area of 300-350 so they will last a while as long as I'm not doing burnouts. Tirerack.com is the place to go for tires.....very good prices
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