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I just put down half of the money for these... http://www.carolinarides.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=41645 18x9 Chrome Roush Wheels. I think i have already found the other two centercaps and im not really worried about the lip on the one being messed up but i am worried about this.... http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pro...ang_Wheel.html the part where it says will not fit IRS cars. Im not sure that i have to worry about this and its not like i can do a test fit as i dont have the hubs swapped yet. Anyone had any experience with these?

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Nice rims at a good price. Aren't those the 4.5" Mustang bolt pattern? You're gonna need a hub-swap to put them on.

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Yep Ron, i already have some 10th Anny calipers and some redrilled t-bird rear hubs. Now all i need is the front hubs some front rotors and tires and im set.

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uhh...

On that second link, It says it won't fit IRS cars.... Isn't that going to be a problem? If I missed something, then sorry.

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That offset is way too low to look good on an mn12. You need something like a +36 offset on a 9" wheel. They will most likely rub badly... and stick out the fenders. I would get your money back and look for some 05+ Mustang aftermarket wheels with a higher offset.

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thank you... unfortunately this is what i needed to hear but not something i wanted to

i will continue my research

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FR500 Steering Wheel, FRPP Wires, 180* T-Stat, 22C Plugs, Cobra Vert Rears, RSTB, SC "L" Braces. 175k and still flying!

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I am 99.9% sure they are +28.

the 10 inch wheels are +41.

these are the specs provided by the seller..... i need to ask about the ten inch wheels.... i didn't know about that!

EDIT: all wheels are 18x9's

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FR500 Steering Wheel, FRPP Wires, 180* T-Stat, 22C Plugs, Cobra Vert Rears, RSTB, SC "L" Braces. 175k and still flying!

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The stage 3 motorsports page says +21. I would believe them before some guy that just wants to sell them.

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Leaky shifter @ 137,441; what a good ride. Gone to the crusher, but not forgotten... moth and rust doth corrupt.

'13 Mustang GT Premium 5.0L V8, Auto, Brembo, Black - Daily Dark Horse
'11 Edge SEL AWD 3.5L V6, Loaded, Black - For the Misses
'98 F-150 XLT RegCab 8'Bed, 4.6L V8 4x4 ORP Oxford White - Work Truck

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I trust what he is saying, These are also not the same as the stage3's as the ones im buying are the older style

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FR500 Steering Wheel, FRPP Wires, 180* T-Stat, 22C Plugs, Cobra Vert Rears, RSTB, SC "L" Braces. 175k and still flying!

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ahh,

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...... These are also not the same as the stage3's as the ones I'm buying are the older style
See that's the part I was missing. Gl with the new wheels.

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thank you sir, if they arent perfect i will get some spacers. I guess i will probably be the only bird with roush wheels.

1997 Thunderbird LX, 4.6L, Performance White.
3.27 TL, 300hp J-Mod, Mid-Mount Magnaflow w/2.25" True Duals to 3" Magnaflow 15* Slash Cut Tips, PI Intake,
FR500 Steering Wheel, FRPP Wires, 180* T-Stat, 22C Plugs, Cobra Vert Rears, RSTB, SC "L" Braces. 175k and still flying!
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You need to do more homework on this before you buy. You will not need spacers for wheels that are +28. If anything, you might need to have the wheels milled to a higher offset.

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Bought 01/12/08 w/ 33,000 original mi. Big plans, little execution. Sold as a fallen victim to life's happenings.
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Leaky shifter @ 137,441; what a good ride. Gone to the crusher, but not forgotten... moth and rust doth corrupt.

'13 Mustang GT Premium 5.0L V8, Auto, Brembo, Black - Daily Dark Horse
'11 Edge SEL AWD 3.5L V6, Loaded, Black - For the Misses
'98 F-150 XLT RegCab 8'Bed, 4.6L V8 4x4 ORP Oxford White - Work Truck

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okay thanks will do

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FR500 Steering Wheel, FRPP Wires, 180* T-Stat, 22C Plugs, Cobra Vert Rears, RSTB, SC "L" Braces. 175k and still flying!
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...eelOffsets.jsp

Click on the link and view the positive offset picture. This is why a wheel with more offset will actually sit in more instead of sticking out. Hope this helps. The less offset you have, the more it will stick out.

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yeah it took some studying to figure that out. so since these are +28 for a 9" wheel and the optimal is +36 on a 9" wheel these will stick out a little further than usually desired approximately 1/3".

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yeah it took some studying to figure that out. so since these are +28 for a 9" wheel and the optimal is +36 on a 9" wheel these will stick out a little further than usually desired approximately 1/3".
Yes. I think +36 on a 9" wheels sits right at the edge of our cars(maybe out just a tad) The difference between your +28mm and the desired +36mm = 8mm....yeah I went to school LOL. The conversion from MM to inches is about .0393 So 8 x .0393= roughly 3/8"
They are gonna stick out a bit.

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thats cool, i got them home tonight and man do they shine. no matter what anything shiny is better regardless if they do stick out 3/8"

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Well, you'll be singing a different tune when your fender eats your tire.

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'95 Thunderbird 4.6L V8 - Performance White
Bought 01/12/08 w/ 33,000 original mi. Big plans, little execution. Sold as a fallen victim to life's happenings.
'95 Thunderbird 4.6L V8 - Performance White
Leaky shifter @ 137,441; what a good ride. Gone to the crusher, but not forgotten... moth and rust doth corrupt.

'13 Mustang GT Premium 5.0L V8, Auto, Brembo, Black - Daily Dark Horse
'11 Edge SEL AWD 3.5L V6, Loaded, Black - For the Misses
'98 F-150 XLT RegCab 8'Bed, 4.6L V8 4x4 ORP Oxford White - Work Truck

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Yes. I think +36 on a 9" wheels sits right at the edge of our cars(maybe out just a tad) The difference between your +28mm and the desired +36mm = 8mm....yeah I went to school LOL. The conversion from MM to inches is about .0393 So 8 x .0393= roughly 3/8"
They are gonna stick out a bit.
I have to disagree, I'd say a +30mm offset on a 9" wheel sits right at the edge with these cars, 36 almost tucks them in.

My + 26mm offset on my cobra wheels sit out just a tad on the front. Not even 3/8".

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