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I had to drive to California from Florida and I wanted new tires since I was going so many miles. After buying a set from a local yard that looked brand new, nipples still on the tire, I set off on my 3400 mile trip. Going across Texas, one tire shredded and flew apart. New tires are NOT over-rated! Anybody who does any miles at all on their vehicle should always have young, new tires; I am a firm believer of that.

I just took my van to Indiana and back for work (over 3000 miles), two months ago I went to North Carolina and back, and in two weeks, I'll be going to Kentucky and back. There are 4 new Good Year tires on my van that are less than 6 months old. It's just not worth it to mess with used tires or older "new" tires.

I just went and looked at the tires on the van, 3310, 33rd week of 2010. The 'Bird is in the shop (lol), so I can't look at those tires, but the Explorer that Daniela is driving right now (a loaner) has tires from 2007 on it.

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I just went and got tires for the wife's car today..... the tires on hers were from 05. My Tbird..... they are about the same year but need to be replaced as well.

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Ran across that article some time ago. The only used tires I ever bought are the pair of Firehawk Wide Ovals I have on the front of the bird right now. I didn't know exactly when they were made initially but I found that they were only on the market since 2005... so I knew they couldn't be any older than that. They ended up being late 04 and mid 05, good enough for the time being.

Scary thing is... my dad picked up a used '88 Eldorado last year as a commute car and one of the tires on it is from 1990!

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Ran across that article some time ago. The only used tires I ever bought are the pair of Firehawk Wide Ovals I have on the front of the bird right now. I didn't know exactly when they were made initially but I found that they were only on the market since 2005... so I knew they couldn't be any older than that. They ended up being late 04 and mid 05, plenty good enough for me.

Scary thing is... my dad picked up a used '88 Eldorado last year as a commute car and one of the tires on it is from 1990!
I believe I would advice him to replace a 20 year old tire

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the old tires are the evil ones, you have to punish them before you retire them.
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the old tires are the evil ones, you have to punish them before you retire them.
Just make sure it's the tires spinning, lol. There's a video of a guy in a vette here somewhere smoking his clutch trying to do a burnout.


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But I can forgive you for not finding the original thread in a search. It took me a few minutes to find it and I knew what I was looking for.

Here's the original thread: http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=113778

There's a lot of good info in this thread and this issue is worth bringing up again. Thanks for sharing.

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Some tires do age faster, but an owner who just pays atention to them should notice. Many people don't know what to look for, they should have someone who does know and replace early ... like my mother.

Myself, I have tires older than 5 years, I keep an eye on them. I maintain proper inflation pressures, I'm anal about it almost. I don't run bubble tires or tires with advanced age cracks. I watch tread wear.

31 years plus as a trooper, I saw a lot of people with blown tires alongside the interstate, and many more with tires that should have been flat.

The blown tires that blew out the sidewalls showed ample evidence that they had been run miles with very little air, driver not in tune with what a low tire feels like or a driver who never took tire inflation pressure serious.

I've stopped cars and SUVs and etc for speeding and walked up and noticed wires hanging out from under the tread where the edges were worn out and have had the drivers ask me if they could stuill make it another 500-1000 miles ... etc. Seen them at over 100 mph get stopped and see bare chords in tread center or low bulging sidewalls and fellow with family in the vehicle ... idiots.

I recall the guy one night at 97 with a Lincoln Navigator, his wife, two kids, two of either his or his wifes parents, a rack out back and rook loaded with luggage, going from New York to somewhere south, he a PO, and when I asked whose family he had he introduced them. He asked why, I said I was glad it wasn't my family. His tires looked low, I told him, he asked me how to check them?

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Some tires do age faster, but an owner who just pays atention to them should notice. Many people don't know what to look for, they should have someone who does know and replace early ... like my mother.

Myself, I have tires older than 5 years, I keep an eye on them. I maintain proper inflation pressures, I'm anal about it almost. I don't run bubble tires or tires with advanced age cracks. I watch tread wear.

31 years plus as a trooper, I saw a lot of people with blown tires alongside the interstate, and many more with tires that should have been flat.

The blown tires that blew out the sidewalls showed ample evidence that they had been run miles with very little air, driver not in tune with what a low tire feels like or a driver who never took tire inflation pressure serious.

I've stopped cars and SUVs and etc for speeding and walked up and noticed wires hanging out from under the tread where the edges were worn out and have had the drivers ask me if they could stuill make it another 500-1000 miles ... etc. Seen them at over 100 mph get stopped and see bare chords in tread center or low bulging sidewalls and fellow with family in the vehicle ... idiots.

I recall the guy one night at 97 with a Lincoln Navigator, his wife, two kids, two of either his or his wifes parents, a rack out back and rook loaded with luggage, going from New York to somewhere south, he a PO, and when I asked whose family he had he introduced them. He asked why, I said I was glad it wasn't my family. His tires looked low, I told him, he asked me how to check them?

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At your age and with your experiences, you should have acclimated to the fact that most people are flat out stupid. Ignorant is a different thing - just means you don't know better; stupid is when you DO know better and still don't do anything about it. I'm not saying I've never done anything stupid, but I do learn and tend to not repeat stupid mistakes! I never go anywhere far without new or (like you've described) well taken care of tires.

So you were a trooper? Up to 4 months ago, I always said if a trooper ever stops me, I ALWAYS get a ticket. But that time, he let me go with a warning - I almost had a coronary on the spot.

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I still run the stock tires on my 97 F150.
They are old, and I do need to replace them.

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At your age and with your experiences, you should have acclimated to the fact that most people are flat out stupid. Ignorant is a different thing - just means you don't know better; stupid is when you DO know better and still don't do anything about it. I'm not saying I've never done anything stupid, but I do learn and tend to not repeat stupid mistakes! I never go anywhere far without new or (like you've described) well taken care of tires.

So you were a trooper? Up to 4 months ago, I always said if a trooper ever stops me, I ALWAYS get a ticket. But that time, he let me go with a warning - I almost had a coronary on the spot.
Ignorance can be cured with knowledge. Stupidity is a choice.

One night it was really really cold, not much above zero, I was mostly just patroling looking for breakdowns, staying warm, had 100 miles of interstate to check (round trip total) and headed west I noticed a flashing spot of the left rear tire of the small black car ahead. I figured someone didn't know the air was near to showing through so I stopped the car and approached with caution, found two very young ladies in it. It was maybe 1 - 2 am. I asked for the driver's lic and etc, and had every intention of just telling her she needed a tire bad. She surprised me, said she wasn't worried. As she signed the ticket I told her she should find a place to wait until morning in the next town, I suggested an all night gas station / conv store I knew about. She said she was going all the way to Ky.

Interstate 64 west is a lonely road in the wee hours, no place to be stuck in near 0 cold. Hours later I heard the unit in the next area run the tag on the radio, he found them near frozen with a flat 15 miles past the next town.

She started out maybe just ignorant, and she chose to remain so, thus showing she was stupid.

Over the years, I gave many more warnings than tickets. Our warnings were verbal.

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This is the first time hearing any of this info for me. So, I figured I would head out to the garage and check the nice new tires I just ordered from Tirerack.com. I am very impressed! My Firestone Winterforces were made in the 33rd week of 2010.
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This is the first time hearing any of this info for me. So, I figured I would head out to the garage and check the nice new tires I just ordered from Tirerack.com. I am very impressed! My Firestone Winterforces were made in the 33rd week of 2010.
Dang, they are only barely 10 weeks!?! I don't know if they have been weened yet - LOL

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ANY OVER THAT MUST BE REPLACED
Obviously legislation backed by big business to the detriment of the consumer.

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The thing is that any legislation passed to protect consumers against getting "new" old tires put on their car doesn't necessarily protect them from leaving them on the car for insane lengths of time, so much to the point where they become a hazard. Someone could put 20 week old tires on a car, drive it 20,000 miles in 10 years then sell it advertising "tires with 3/4 tread left", misleading possible buyers into thinking the tires are perfectly fine. Vehicle inspections could help abate this I suppose, but not every state requires inspections.

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I have the receipt for the tires on my car from late 2003, they still have plenty of tread left, and the car wasn't driven more than 5k miles before I got it last August. I am keeping my eyes on this set of tires though because of their age...

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Agree .... keep an eye on them, keep an eye on ANY tire for that matter. It's a habit I learned partially from my daddy, it's a habit that I had to maintain as a trooper frequently and unexpectadly needing to run high speeds on public roads .... often for many miles. Even brand new tires need an eye.

Conversly, I knew guys who didn't take the tires so seriously, they had some problems.

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Cool So The Answer Is Don,t Buy High

MILEGE TIRES IF YOU DON,T EXPECT TO GO FAR ,OR YOU,RE WASTING MONEY !!!
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