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the silver slut has 255 50 17 on it right now, and the rears are really bald, and need to be replaced. i want to get some firehawk wide ovals, but i also want to go a bit wider.

im not sure of the offset of my wheels, but the current setup does stick out past the fenders a little already. they have only rubbed once since i have had the car, and that was on a BIG bump on the highway. anyways... my question is, would 275 50 17 look/perform good, and fit well ?

the car is lowered 1 inch, and the wheels are 17x8 bullits. i looked at this chart, http://www.wheelcityusa.com/tires/chart.htm and height wise the 275's are .79 of an inch taller than the current tires. i just need a good street tire as i cant afford drag radials right now.

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Why are you looking to go so wide? If you do go 275, I suggest you only put them on the rears. The general consensus around here is 255 is as wide as you'll want to go on the front.

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The general consensus around here is 225 is as wide as you'll want to go on the front.
Why? I run 245s and have no issues

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275/45/17 or 275/50/17 in the back.

245/45/17 in front.

Are these on 9" rims?

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Why? I run 245s and have no issues
He seemed dead set on going wider.

I run my 235's with no problems.

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275/45/17 or 275/50/17 in the back.

245/45/17 in front.

Are these on 9" rims?
17x8 rims
right now it has 255 50 17 all the way around. i just wanted to go a bit wider in the back. the front tires are fine. they still have a good bit of life left in them

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Running 255/45/17 Wide Ovals on all fours, no issues with rubbing et al, although traction from a stop does become an issue if you mash it. The fronts I bought used with about 60% tread on them and the rears were new. I'm thinking I'll move the new tires to the front and get wider tires for the rear when it comes time to replace the used tires I bought. The only Wide Oval size available that's wider in the rear for 17s is 275/40/17 which is a little shorter than I'd want, but I could live with it. Ron's right, 275/45 is about the sweet spot, but I don't know of anyone who makes such a size.

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Why are you looking to go so wide? If you do go 275, I suggest you only put them on the rears. The general consensus around here is 225 is as wide as you'll want to go on the front.
Who's consensus is that? I'd run 275/45s all around if that tire existed.

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Sorry, yea, 275/45 doesn't exist.

Racecougar runs Nitto 555 245/45/17 front and Nitto 450 275/50/17 in back on 17x8” front and 17x9” rear rims.

In back you're going to be restricted by the rim width to the same 245 or 255 size as the front.

The issue in going with 275 in back is the contact patch and the side wall stability in hard corners, since the side wall has to bend in-wards to accommodate the puny, embarrassingly small and thin wheel. Not to mention you run the risk of the bead unseating with too narrow a rim. I would not do a 275 on a 8" wide wheel, it's just too small.

If you want to go larger in back you're going to need to step up your rim size to 9 or 10 inches, which I'd highly recommend on a car making as much HP as the slut. Frankly, I'm surprised that it has only 8" rims on it.

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I run 8" tires on a 6.5" wheel.

275's will be fine on an 8" wheel.

It takes a lot of pressure to unseat a bead on a wheel...

a few here run 275's on 6.5" wheels, with no ill effects.

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well, some after searching i decided to get a couple Riken Raptor ZR's in 255 50 17. i have read good reviews, and they were only 130 bucks a piece shipped to my house...i couldn't see spending a whole lot on my first set of rear tires, considering my driving habits with this car right now. ill get some better tires all the way around when the new wears off... lol

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Good choice. I've heard good things about them too.

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Good choice. I've heard good things about them too.
yeah i read some good reviews on these on an ls1 forum i found in a search. if they can take the low end torque of the ls1, and get into 1.8-1.9 60' they must be a decent tire

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I have a set of Riken Raptors that came on the SC they are made by Michelin.

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do they grip good for street tires?

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Who's consensus is that? I'd run 275/45s all around if that tire existed.
oops, I meant 255.

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With a rim that width 255/50/17 is pushing it lol I'm running 255/50/17 on all fours on a 7 1/2" rim it's a tight squeeze lol you'll enjoy the Rikens until they get near their end. They go to crap in the end of their life (at wear bars). I'm currently running Nitto INVO's with great results. Eventually I want to go 275/40/17 all around but that's dangerous with my rims, I'll need to upgrade to wider rims. Enjoy the new tires. I got great life out of the Rikens I had, if I was hard pressed for cash I wouldn't hesitate to buy them.

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I have a set of Riken Raptors that came on the SC they are made by Michelin.
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I heard they were made by BFGoodrich. Any proof to either claim?
Michelin is who makes them, i'm pretty sure

i got them today i'll try to have them installed tomorrow, and get some pics. and maybe a burnout vid finishing off the old tires

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well the riken raptors made it a little more than a year, before i decided to move them to the front... they still have probably 40% tread left... they have been fun, but its time i went a little wider, so i've bought a pair of nitto nt 450 in 275/45/17. maybe they will give me SOME traction in first...lol. For a while I was toying with getting some 18x10s for the rear, and some 295/45/18, but didnt have the money after christmas shopping. Oh well maybe these will hold me for a little while.

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OK guys I currently have 215 70 r15's on the bird right now but I have to replace the backs and I want to go wider. My question is do I have to get another 70 so the tires will be around the same height.

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As you increase treadwidth on a given rim size, you have to decrease sidewall to maintain overall diameter.

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OK guys I currently have 215 70 r15's on the bird right now but I have to replace the backs and I want to go wider. My question is do I have to get another 70 so the tires will be around the same height.
The second number (70 in this case) is the aspect ratio. If you increase the first number (width), you need to reduce the aspect ratio to remain at the same diameter.

Example: 245/45-17 and 275/40-17 are nearly the same diameter.

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Anything wider than 215 with that profile would result in a 27"+ tire height. 225/65(26.52"), 235 65(27.03") or 245/60(26.57") would be good options.

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Thank you guys.

Another question would 245's be to wide? I had 235 cobras on before and I really like the stance of a wide tire but I'm wondering if those would be a little to wide or overkill.

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On a 6.5" wheel 245 IMHO is the widest you should go with a 60 aspect. You should be fine.

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thanks again for the info but my wife just gave me the okay to spend 1000 dollars on the bird due to income taxes so i will propably start a new thread on what to do!!!!!!

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