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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-12-2003, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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Cool Tires for '97 Sport 16" OEM Wheels??

Folks, My Wife and I are 45 years old, we don't race or show our extreemly nice '97 Sport.
We would appreciate any imput, cost aside as to what brand and style of tire would be a nice handeling all around tire to put on it.
We do mostly around town driving, but also do some interstate driving.
The car presently has Cooper Turing tires on it, and as things go I really don't think they are the best tire that could be on it for our purposes.
BTW, anyone know what was on the car from the factory? I'm guessing Michelin??
Thanks for your imput!
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I have a '96 Sport that I bought brand new in 1996. Since you live in Florida, you're best tire is the Firestone Firehawk.
Firestone Firehawk SZ50 EP (Ultra High Performance Summer)

Put on a set of 255/50 as they are wonderful on dry and especially wet pavement. I put on a set in November of 2002 and have almost 10,000 miles on them.

They are really, really good. Many good reviews about this tire on www.tirerack.com
Reason I went with 255/50 is that the tread width is about 1.5 inches wider than the 225/60.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...estone&x=8&y=8

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Best 1/4 mile 14.6sec @96mph on Dec. 20th at Hallsville, TX
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To answer your second question: OEM tires were Goodyear GTs. Great tread wear but lousy traction. Next set that I put on was Goodyear HPs--Great ride, quieter and softer ride but again--lousy traction, especially on wet pavement. Put on a set of Firestone Firehawks.

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Best 1/4 mile 14.6sec @96mph on Dec. 20th at Hallsville, TX
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I too have the Firehawks on my 97 w/ sport option. I absolutely love them. They perform great and are still quiet and comfortable. They will be more expensive, but are well worth it.
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235/60/16

Great size. I had the kuhmo kh11's, and they would be an excellent all season tire in florida. It really fills the fender, and doesn't rub anywhere.

Also your speedo will be more accurate.

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The smoothest ride and wet/dry best traction combined tires I've had were from my current 235/60/16 Michelin MXV4 tires.
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OK, It looks like the Firestone Firehawks are my best bet, but with all the problems with the Wilderness tires on the Explorers, and the fact that it came out that Firestone had cut corners on those tires that caused their failures, I know the Firehawks are totally different tires than thr Wilderness but I'm still a little hesitant with the Firestone brand in general.
96AEDBird: when you went with the 50 series tire is it the same height as the original 60 series? does the 50 series fit the rim OK, does it rub at all??
I'm concerned about my speedometer reading and rubbing, my Wife drives the car most of the time. Thanks!
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I just want to welcome another FL bird to the club. I musta somehow missed your earlier posts.

We've got a pretty good sized contingent from FL that post pretty regularly. That I know off the top of my head, there's one from Melbourne, a couple from Orlando/Kissimmee, three or four from the West Coast and 8 or so of us down around Palm Beach County.

We get together quite a bit at Moroso... we call it "racing", but it's more about hanging out and telling lies and going to the Ale House afterward... a few of us will "flock-up" once in awhile to help someone with an install, too...

Cruise around the board, check the tech articles, do some searches... there is a lot of great info and entertainment on this site....

I'm not gonna get into the tire thing... At one time or another I've owned every brand of tire on lots of different cars... and had good an bad experiences with almost all of them.....

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Thanks for the welcome 96GoldBird!!! I have been around for a while but don't post that often, We live in Palm Bay, which borders Melbourne, I think I have seen a Black TBird with a TCCOA sticker on it, I know exactly where you are down there in Palm City, I used to drive for Armellini Express Lines there.
I have a '65 Mustang Convertible "K" code, Wife has a '57 Chevy, both projects not running, plus our '78 & '94 F150 Supercabs, I also belong to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts site, We'd like to come down to one of your meets sometime, we have owned our '97 TBird Sport for about 2 years now, and love it, its my Wife's daily driver, we keep it very clean, and get complements from lots of folks due to its unique Opalescent Pearl paint. Rick
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The Pearl White is sweet... it's the only other color I considered in '96, but went with the Saddle.

Our next planned get together is on January 30. You might want to chime in herehttp://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.p...threadid=30130 just so you can keep an eye on it as it gets closer.

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Folks, My Wife and I are 45 years old, we don't race or show our extreemly nice '97 Sport.
We would appreciate any imput, cost aside as to what brand and style of tire would be a nice handeling all around tire to put on it.
We do mostly around town driving, but also do some interstate driving.
The car presently has Cooper Turing tires on it, and as things go I really don't think they are the best tire that could be on it for our purposes.
BTW, anyone know what was on the car from the factory? I'm guessing Michelin??
Thanks for your imput!
this is from an earlier post of mine:
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I never knew that good/new tires can make such a difference..
I've been running on pretty badly worn and noisy overpriced s-rated Michelin symmetry's, and for the last few months I've been sliding over every little puddle, and sqeaking.

Today I got the ne w Yokohama AVS Decibel S2 (225/60/16)put on:

$97 a tire at tire rack, W-rated, tempA and traction A

...and what a difference: quiet, smooth, and such great handling...the vibe I had at 40mph and 65 mph is GONE!
They handle great, even in rain, when taking curves fast. The car even feels like it's faster 'cause the tires are so stable, and roll easily. I drive in a very "decent" fashion normally, but today I felt like driving like a mad man!(and I did)...these tires are supposed to be the quietest ultra high performance all season tires Yokohama ever madc, and i can really testify to that...up to 65 mph i can hear absolutely NO road noise...after that, minimal.

I had the mounting place use the Hunter GSP9700 machine, and they balanced them well. I also told the about matching the yellow spot to the valve stem etc.

However, I didn't get the alignment done yet, 'cause my front inner tie rods have to be replaced. The old tires made me think there was a lot more wrong with my suspension. with the Yoko's I can feel only 5% of the harshness I felt with my old tires. With tie rods and alignment, and rear irs bushings, I hope it will ride like new again.

....I can highly recommend these tires to anyone.
Sorry for the long post...just wanted to share the happiness of bird getting new shoes-))
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Kumho KH11
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W-speed rated.
Asymmetrical tread design.
12-15K miles on them,and still in excellent shape.
Perfect in all driving conditions.
Better adhesion to the road than any other tire I've had on the car-ever.
Can't be beat at $58 each from Tirerack.com
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Hey JL,

Did the 235/60-16 throw your speedo off much? I was thinking about those, but they come in just over 27 inches. So I had a set of 235/55-16 held, but now I'm thinking they are too low.

This will go on a 7.5 inch rim, so I think I'm safe. Any opinions or advise?

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Hey JL,

Did the 235/60-16 throw your speedo off much? I was thinking about those, but they come in just over 27 inches. So I had a set of 235/55-16 held, but now I'm thinking they are too low.

This will go on a 7.5 inch rim, so I think I'm safe. Any opinions or advise?

Thanks
It's more accurate with these than the 225/60/16 that the Sports have as OE fitament.
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Once again you prove to be an awesome resource. When the rims come in, I'll have the 235/60-16s mounted. Much more common size, so I shouldn't have to pay a fortune for tires. Still have to come up with about a thousand for the rubber alone on my Bronco. It takes them about 38+ inches in diameter. They get costly

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"96AEDBird: when you went with the 50 series tire is it the same height as the original 60 series? does the 50 series fit the rim OK, does it rub at all??
I'm concerned about my speedometer reading and rubbing, my Wife drives the car most of the time. Thanks!"

The 255/50r16 are just about .25", that 1/4", less that the OEM sizes. They don't rub and several other Tbird owners had the 255/50's on their cars long before I did. I asked them the same questions before hand. Also, I was unsure about the look, rubbing, etc so I made and agreement with the Firestone store. They'd put on the rear tires, put the car down on the ground for me to evaluate. If I didn't like the tires, I only had to pay for the tire mounting labor. Once they sat the car down and I saw how good they looked--I was hooked. They will also fit the OEM rims and the tires have the rim protector feature. Speedometer reading shouldn't vary much with just the 1/4" difference.

Previous owner of: '96 Tbird Sport with AED SC.
Best 1/4 mile 13.7sec @ 101mph
Previous owner of:'04 Red Mercury Marauder 100% stock.
Best 1/4 mile 14.6sec @96mph on Dec. 20th at Hallsville, TX

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Might want to add this link to your favorites.

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