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Got new Wheels and tires

Well, I got the tires I wanted on the wheels I wanted.

17x7.5" Cobra R's with Fuzion ZRi 255/50/17's. The rear fit easily of course. The front came so close to the bottom part of the upper ball joint that I couldn't get a quarter between the tire and the part. I contemplated spacers, the techs at Firestone wanted me to go with 245/45/17's up front. We ended up cutting off that part hangs below where the spindle clamps onto the ball joint. Its close, but it has enough clearance, and there is enough steel left to be safe. The car drove great on the way home, but the larger tires amplified the fact that it does need an alignment. They asked if I wanted one when I got the tires, and I would have said yes, but I'm planning on putting the Eibachs and KYB's this week and didn't want to pay for two alignments.

And before anyone punches in the TTIWWP smiley. I know, I need to post pics. I took some pics in KC using my Dads camera and then uploaded them onto my moms computer. And they are still there. Unfortunately I'm now home in Parsons, so I'll have to get some pics tomorrow.

One thing I do still need is center caps. Anyone have any extra laying around?


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Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
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255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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Ok, got the pics taken this morning. The car is dirty, but hey I got back from KC last night at 10:30 and didn't feel like washing it before replacing the right front fender (notice the dents in it? they're gone now )






Before you say "It needs to be lowered", I'm hoping to get the Eibachs and KYB's put on this week.


1997 Thunderbird Sport
Low Miles
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1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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i like it. nice!

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post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-02-2007, 01:12 PM
 
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Looking good!!!
Need's to be lowered though LOL
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Awesome. Have any plans for fender badging of any sort?


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Mid 90's Mustang GT "GT 4.6" badges. I'd do it today, but I'm running late for work!


1997 Thunderbird Sport
Low Miles
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destined to remain stock

1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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That's exactly what I was picturing in my mind. Can't wait to see it.


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Wow man looks great.And yes it is begging to be lowered.

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Looks nice Mike It will look even better after you get the Eibach's on. I swapped over my Cobra R's for a few days (don't ask) last week and snapped a few pics. I'll be putting Eibach's on mine as well - eventually haha. Got other things in line first.



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The Chrome looks great. I went with silver for two reasons. It goes with the stripes, and I got a great price on them from Ebay.


1997 Thunderbird Sport
Low Miles
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destined to remain stock

1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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Looks nice man, nice pick.

next time your in mississippi stop by and ill help you put on some hydraulics and youll be in business
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What tires did you go with?

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Looks nice man, nice pick.

next time your in mississippi stop by and ill help you put on some hydraulics and youll be in business
LOL Thanks for the offer, but I'm just too old fashioned (or maybe just too old )for hydraulics. Don't think my backside could take it!

Joel, its got Fuzion ZRi 255/50/17's


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1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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I thougt that that 255/50s were to big?
245/45 or 255/45 is the best fit right?

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LOL I've been through this over and over with a few people. Before I go any further I must state that this is (for the most part) my opinion... For your car, you put whatever size you want that will fit. With that said:

255/50/16 is nearly IDENTICAL in diameter to the 215/70/15's that came off of the car originally. It is close to the 225/60/16's (again in diameter). The 245/45/17 is a Mustang size and is much smaller in diamter than the T-bird tires. Now the math.

215/70/15 - 26.9" diameter

225/60/16 - 26.6" diameter

255/50/17 - 27" diamter - .7% off original size. 60.4 mph speedo reading when going 60 mph

245/45/17 - 25.7" diameter - 4.4% off original size. 57.4 MPH reading when going 60 mph

255/45/17 - 26" diameter - 3% off original size. 58.2 MPH reading when going 60 mph.

Reference: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I chose to go with the tire that is closest in diameter to the original spec tire.


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1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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Oh, I was just thinking about that as I was just looking for new tires, and came across your post, Btw your car is looking good!!

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I went with 245/50/17 for my wheels. Dia. is 26.64" vs. 26.62" for original Sport setup.

You want some Cobra center caps for those wheels? If you do, PM me.

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When you wear out the Fuzions...and you will wear them out quickly....go for the Kumho ASX in the 255/50-17. I switched to them after a bout with the Fuzions. They're a MUCH better tire so far at about the same price.

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Traveler, the Kumho ASX is what I run as well, I like em when I don't drive like a maniac!

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Ok, I mentioned the tight clearance of the tires in the first post but describing it just doesn't do it justice. So I got some pics. (you know pic...thousand words...yada yada...)

But it DOES clear.






1997 Thunderbird Sport
Low Miles
Wifes Car
destined to remain stock

1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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Wow thats close. And I see you can add upper control arm replacement to the list of things to do on project Thunderbird GT.
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LOL Yea, they're a little worn. I need to get caught up financially first. They aren't loose or making any noise so they'll last a little while longer.


1997 Thunderbird Sport
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1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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I did my arms when i did my Tokico kit. Saves on the labor and alignments.

Those tires will fill those wheelwells nicely when you drop it. Shouldn't have much gap at all. I run 235/55/16's on mine and I still have a little more gap than I like, even with my Tokico kit installed.

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dayum that's close .i'm runnin 245/45/18's with eibach's and it's not like that close but o my' i haven't had any probs that i can hear or tell but woo weee ......

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Well, they tried to sell me 245/45/17's for the front. In hindsight maybe I should have done it. But they work, and they look good, and I can rotate them when I need to. I'll be able to lower it as the clearance is related to the suspension, and when its lowered the suspension will move along with the wheel/tire.

But it is close.


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Low Miles
Wifes Car
destined to remain stock

1997 T-Bird GT 4.6
80 MM Mustang GT MAF - P&P'd Mustang GT TB and Intake Plenum - PI Intake manifold - PI Heads
Mark VIII Torque Converter - J-Modded 4R70W transmission - Mark VIII Aluminum Driveshaft - 3.73 gears
PBR Brake Calipers - Eibach Springs - KYB Shocks
'89 SuperCoupe front and rear sway bars
SCT Chip programmed by Lonnie Doll
255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512's
True Dual exhaust with Magnaflow DI/DO muffler
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