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Repair/replace quarter window trim

Anyone ever have to repair / replace the trim around the quarter window? I think whoever had the car before me tried to buff the window or the trim and ruined the trim in the process. I never did anything cause the window was not off. Now that it's off, is there anything I can do? (see pic)
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The only things that come to mind are either vinyl or trim paint (duplicolor trim and bumper paint in particular, looks like good stuff). This is on my list of to do's, as mine are getting really faded. I would just go with trim paint, seems easier, especially since its off the car already.

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The only things that come to mind are either vinyl or trim paint (duplicolor trim and bumper paint in particular, looks like good stuff). This is on my list of to do's, as mine are getting really faded. I would just go with trim paint, seems easier, especially since its off the car already.
Hi V22,
I used duplicolor trim and bumper paint on my Mark VII rear bumper to restore it. The white strip is body trim tape.
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Its hard to tell from the pic, but if it is just faded, then the trim paint is the way to go, however most that I have seen start developing pitting, in which case the only way I have found to fix it is flexible bumper cover repair epoxy.

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that bumper paint works, I don't think it's enamel...maybe bits of rubber... but I've used it and it's amazing stuff.

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Yeah, sorry about the pic, but yes, there is pitting.

I am beginning to think junk yard for another window.

It won't hurt to try the paint, I have some left over, but I want more of a black. The one I have is a grey. But it would not hurt to use grey for the first shot.

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My cougar has the same problem on the drivers side. It is starting to get very rough and pitted. My plan is to put a layer of body filler on it and then sand it down and paint it. Hopefully body filler will stick; fiberglass resin or epoxy like Mike said might actually be a better option

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Regular body filler will crack. This is what you need
https://www.amazon.com/3M-05887-Flex...ywords=3m+5887

First tape the glass along the inner edge of the black trim. Next mix the epoxy, and apply it with a spreader like regular body filler, trying to make it as smooth as possible, and making sure to work it into all the pits. Before it dries, pull the tape off the glass to give a nice edge, then once it is dry, re-mask the glass and sand it smooth with some 320 sandpaper, then prime and paint.
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Hmmmm.... junkyard quarter glass is $15.99... the plastic resin is almost $50.... hmmmm.. (thinking to self) "the windows are already out, need a few other things from the yard... hmmmmm"

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I have been looking to find a nice condition used quarter glass. But after seeing how much work it is to take it out and properly reseal it, almost seems like too much trouble.
Probably going to follow the directions Mike posted. Thank for that, sounds like you have done it before

Now since yours are already out; new ones sound like a way easier option

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New ones are definitely an easier option, IF you can find a set that isn't just as faded and pitted as the originals. I've actually been curious about the ones on cars with the cloth roof. Those things may be hiding pristine unfaded quarter windows, or they may have put a 2" drywall screw right through the rubber on them. I never had the time and opportunity to find out.

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New ones are definitely an easier option, IF you can find a set that isn't just as faded and pitted as the originals. I've actually been curious about the ones on cars with the cloth roof. Those things may be hiding pristine unfaded quarter windows, or they may have put a 2" drywall screw right through the rubber on them. I never had the time and opportunity to find out.
Hey Mike,
I am not sure, but don't use a glue of sorts to bind the vinyl / cloth material to / around the quarter window? I would think after that long, the glue might cause some damage to the frame of the window.

Let us know if you ever get the chance to pull one apart.

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I have been looking to find a nice condition used quarter glass. But after seeing how much work it is to take it out and properly reseal it, almost seems like too much trouble.
Probably going to follow the directions Mike posted. Thank for that, sounds like you have done it before

Now since yours are already out; new ones sound like a way easier option
It actually is easy to do, just time consuming.
1) Remove the rear seats
2) remove the seat belts.
3) Remove the quarter panels.
4) put the seats back in so you don't damage the insulation tromping all over it.
5) Remove the screws to the windows and push with your feet (leave two screws lose so the window does not fall out). BAM! The are lose and pull right off.
6) The butyl comes right off with no residue.
7) order some new butyl and your good to go to put them back on.

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Those cloth tops have a fiberglass substructure. The cloth is glued to the fiberglass, and the fiberglass shell is held to the body with screws and jelly donut sized globs of urethane spaced every foot or so. If the globs of urethane and the screws missed the window, it should be in good shape. The problem is it is a royal PITA to get those things off of there to see.

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Anyone ever have to repair / replace the trim around the quarter window? I think whoever had the car before me tried to buff the window or the trim and ruined the trim in the process. I never did anything cause the window was not off. Now that it's off, is there anything I can do? (see pic)
He's gun trick.. seeing as I'm in the auto paint reconditioning field ive done this for many Ford trucks at my job.
It's a delicate process but I've redone gray f150 fender moldings that tend to fade and get that warped fade look with a heat gun it heats up the trim plastic or rubber molecule persay and reshapes it and gives it its natural color right at the correct moment the color goes back .
I can't attest to rubber window trim but it may work.
You have to go slow and not to close it could very well heat and blend''delicately soften and melt out the rub mark " This does works with fender moldings. It's just an idea .
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Anyone ever have to repair / replace the trim around the quarter window? I think whoever had the car before me tried to buff the window or the trim and ruined the trim in the process. I never did anything cause the window was not off. Now that it's off, is there anything I can do? (see pic)
If you still...needed a fix I posted my method using duplicolor truck liner it's a lightly textured spray that is abrasion resistant , self levels and fills pits and gouges. It turns out nice providing glass and paint is masked off.
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Is there also a fix for the "bacon strips" on the Mark VIII rear window? They still keep the water out but they are not very attractive.
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