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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-10-2006, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
 
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glue replace welds?

I can't remember if I read it here or elsewhere. I have searched here and on google. But somewhere I read about this glue that can be used to fix holes, which you can sand and paint. Suppose to be as strong as welding.

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-10-2006, 03:04 PM
 
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I have never heard of some glue being as strong as welding. We have used some epoxy at the body shop I used to work at to fill holes on body panels and sanded and painted them but it still doesn't worl as good as welding.
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i saw something like that on trucks this weekend. it was a glue (or epoxy) that they used to hold a patch panel in place instead of welding it.
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i'm not sure what type of glue it is but that's what my buddies shop used that when they put a replacement quarter panel on my car. has held fine for the past 4 years. i wouldn't use it to fill holes. if its just intended to a temporary fix until the car can be fixed right i would fill the hand with expandable aerosol foam. sand. then bondo, sand again, and spray paint (u can get the factory paint in a spray can at o'reilleys)
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there are a number of panel adhesives that have strength approaching the strength of welds. They have been around for years but are expensive and require special applicator/mixing guns normally.

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I agree, there are panel bond epoxies that body shops use all the time that are just as strong as welding it. stronger, in fact, because the surface area of the glue is far greater than spot welds. it also seals against water entry. its pretty much common practice for quarter panel replacement these days. but they still get welded where the quarter meets the roof. does require the special gun though that mixes it.

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i was thinking something more like this. Ive used it myself.

http://www.3m.com/US/auto_marine_aero/au0222b.html

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The 3M automix adhesive has been proven to be stronger than welds in some crash tests.

Some panels still require welding in certin areas even if the rest of the panel is held on with adhesive..... like on a 1/4 panel you can glue it on the top and front but you have to weld it on the back and i forget if it has to be welded on the bottom.
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there are a number of panel adhesives that have strength approaching the strength of welds. They have been around for years but are expensive and require special applicator/mixing guns normally.

the adhesive itself isnt to bad (30-40 bucks) its the gun is where they get ya (i think they can run over 200 bucks)
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just bought one, the epoxy and the gun were 110 at car quest that does paint/supplies by me, i bought the sem gun and epoxy it the more commonly used in the shops . i bought it to repair my rockers /door on the tbird

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make sure to use something to pinch the panels together for 12hrs to set up. we use lots of vice grips or skinny sheetmetal screws

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Chevy trucks have glued on door hinges.
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Fusor is the company that makes the stuff you are talking about. One of the body shops I used to work at used it to install quarter panels and other stuff. You basically put the glue on the panel, line everything up, then clamp it and leave it for a few hours, and afterwards the bond is stronger than the metal. The rep for the company came to our shop one time and was showing us stuff with it, and he bonded 2 pieces of metal together then hooked the frame machine up to pull them apart. It sheared the brand new sheet metal and where the 2 pieces were glued together hadn't moved at all. Definitely good stuff.

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