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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-16-2006, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
 
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96/97 headlight swap

i've been lookin but cant find anything. whats it take to swap the lights onto a 95?
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header pannel, corners, headlights, latch release.

I have one latch release left..$10 shipped if you want it.
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Right here is an excellent write-up with pictures. I am partial to that setup.
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-16-2006, 09:26 PM Thread Starter
 
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i need the hood as well right?
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You don't have to but if you don't there is a gap between the headlights and the hood. I have a picture of mine before I got the hood on:

The whole passenger corner got smashed. That was my justification for doing the swap.
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cool what about the bumpers, are they interchangeable? i dislike how the front bumpers just get so thin and thats it, seems like the 96/97's have more to them.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think you can put a 96/97 bumper will bolt right up to a 94/95 car. If you want a 94/95 bumper on a 96/97 car you have to swap out the "honeycomb" stuff behind the bumper because the 96/97 bumper sticks out farther.
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Most people generally get the bumper foam. I believe you need to shave off some of the material if you don't swap it to make the 96/97 bumper fit.

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Yes you need to swap out the bumper support, as well as the cover. 8ate8 is right, if you dont swap you need to cut. I personally like the '95 cover better.



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they do make a cobra R hood for the 97 correct? and that hood will work on a 94 with the different latch release? i was actually thinking about going into a full pin on hood...
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Yes they do make that hood. It will work on a 94 with the headlight conversion... you dont even REALLY need the latch release... guess that doesnt matter with a full pin on though.

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they do make a cobra R hood for the 97 correct? and that hood will work on a 94 with the different latch release? i was actually thinking about going into a full pin on hood...

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Wow.. that looks hot. That's the look I want only with the 89-93 front-end with the 96/97 headlights and the 96/97 Cobra R hood.

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My '93 has a '94 bumper, '96 headlights and VFN cowl hood.

The '94 bumper was an direct bolt-on with the hood and lights. I don't think the '93 bumper will fit the lights correctly.

I used the '96 header and '93 hood release. Just drilled a couple small holes for a zip tie to hold the lever in place. I will probably eliminate the secondary latch now since I have hood pins.



You might research whether the '93 bumper will work.
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Has any manufacture ever produced or will produce 95 style clear headlights for T-birds and cougars? Swapping the whole front end for lights is kind of expensive.
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Has any manufacture ever produced or will produce 95 style clear headlights for T-birds and cougars?
Nope.
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Swapping the whole front end for lights is kind of expensive.
I agree, but it doesn't just give you clear lens... it makes the whole front of the car look different. You can usually find all the parts (used) for ~$300. In my case I had to replace several parts anyway so I figured... why not? It would have been just as expensive to put it back stock.
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$90 new headerpanel from Ford
$75 for Headlights
$40 for clear corners
$50+20 service charge to Melon for hood

$275

That plus gas to pick up the hood from Melon in NE, and I have a much nicer lookin birdie.

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I am having problems with the 95 bumper fitting overtop the 96 header between the headlights. I am assuming that I need to trim some of the header away, right?
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You shouldn't have to trim anything
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The '95 cover will make contact with the inside corners of the headlights.
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Put the headlights on last. The inside corners will rub but they still fit.
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What?! I think it would be a hell of a lot harder to put the lights in last. I mounted the headerpanel with lights allready installed, then corners, then cover. It's a tight fit but it'll go together.

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Has any manufacture ever produced or will produce 95 style clear headlights for T-birds and cougars? Swapping the whole front end for lights is kind of expensive.
see my sig.

the 94/5 bumper will also make contact with the vertical part of the 96/7 header panel between the headlights. i wish i would have known this before doing my 96/7 swap. those vertical pieces need to be trimmed at the bottom, so the top of the 94/5 bumper will slide farther back, and possibly reduce the rubbing between the inside corners of the headlights and bumper.

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Put the headlights on last. The inside corners will rub but they still fit.
ummmmm.....dont do that....just install the headlights on the panel beforehand like mentioned above. then drill the 3 holes out where the stock middle 3 push pins are that connect the header panel to the top portion of the front bumper. then install corners.

all you need is a drill, small hands, and some patience alligning the panels

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I have big hands and did it fine.

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'13 Mustang GT Premium 5.0L V8, Auto, Brembo, Black - Daily Dark Horse
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I have big hands and did it fine.
well me and 94onair arent small guys. hes a very tall guy and im a very wide guy
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I have very clear 97 headlights with VERY little use. I have a header pannel and the latch release...all for $200 shipped.
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