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Angry Spring Cleaning Time!

Taking advantage of the decent weather we've finally been getting, I decided to awake the T-Bird from it's winter slumber.

I have it stored in my driveway under a ShelterLogic garage. I disconnected the battery tender, picked up all dryer sheets and Mint X trash bags I had placed under the hood. Then I go inside to start it. Apparently I had a visitor(s) over the course of the last month after I last checked it. Strong odor, more like urine. Looking for suggestions on proven cleaners and methods to get rid of the odor.

I'm probably going pull the seats and most of the interior out to do it, can't wait to see what I might find. I'm thinking of an ozone generator air purifier, but I might do that after I clean everything up. Open for suggestions, steam clean the rugs and seats, vent cleaners for the A/C.

Funny thing is, the trunk and under the hood are fine. No signs of any visitors, just the interior.

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When my Cougar interior was all apart I decided to clean the carpets. I sprayed Lexol deep carpet cleaner on the spots; which consisted of a few tough grease marks, and what looked like spilled soda under the seats. It works better than the spray foam carpet cleaner I have used in the past. It removed the stains really well, so I have been using the Lexol since... even in my house. I like their leather treatment and cleaner as well. After I got the bad spats I went over the entire carpet with a scrub brush I dipped into a bucket of soapy water. Used the shop vac to suck up the soapy water.
Between that and the new headliner the car smells great! It never had a bad odor, but it got rid of the stale older car smell.

On other cars I have had I used Ozium and sprayed it into the air vents and vent intake under the hood. That seems to work well and gets rid of the ducting having a bad smell.
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Joe, I'd give Folex a go on the carpet, especially if you're going to remove it from the car. I used it to clean the OEM carpet in my 00 Grand Prix that went through 3 kids and 2 adults that really didn't care what was spilled in the car.

The first few times I rinsed it out with the hose after soaking it with Folex the water coming out looked like coffee, lol. Initially soaked hard it with the Folex, then used a brush to work it in a bit then rinsed it over and over, with a few re-treatments inbetween.

After I let it dry out in the sun the difference was amazing. Looks as close to factory as possible. After reinstall I have had no lingering odors even when it got hot over last summer and it didn't make the carpet all crunchy. In fact the factory backing didn't even peel off. Just a nice clean carpet left.

I've used it in the house to remove some other stains that were well set and they also came out. Not sure how this stuff works, but it's damn good for the price.
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Nature's Miracle works wonders. You can find it at the local Pet's mart or the Wal-Mart pets department. I think Target carries it too.

We used to use it for our dogs urine when they had accidents in the house. They both passed away last summer.

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Thanks for the suggestions guys, looking at everything including cleaning the a/c system.

Sorry to hear about the dogs Ron. My Golden Retriever just turned 15 back in December so I've been blessed that he's been with us this long. Was that the shampoo you used or the cleaner?

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Thanks so much Joe. Yea, last summer was really tough. I still miss them very, very much. Treasure every day with your Golden and don't take a moment for granted.

We used the cleaner.
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I finally got into it and started removing the interior over the weekend, this is worse than I thought!

The worst of it appeared to be in quarter panels under the rear speakers. Sound deadening and insulation are pretty much trashed. The only thing that I haven't pulled out is the dash and I'm not touching that. I'll work on trying to clean out the vents if I have to, hopefully nothing is under there.

Started to work out the carpet on the drivers and surer than shit a freakin' mouse (live!) pops out and makes a beeline over to the passenger side rear. Not sure where it went, I'm thinking in the hole here in the frame rail. (see picture)

Ordered a bunch of traps on Amazon this morning, can't do any real cleaning until they're gone. Getting bait traps outside the car and loading them up with poison and hopefully that will keep them away.

Not what I wanted to be doing with the car this year!

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I'd use conventional traps and peanut butter. Avoid the poison because they can crawl in a corner and die and then you've got a whole other problem.

So sorry for your critter problem.

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Are you talking outside the car Ron?

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I’d rather see rust! How many years have I been saying everyone should toss the sound deadener from that area?


That hole goes into the rocker panel, and through that he could get out through the square cutout in the frame rail near the fuel tank, it may be his hiding place it didn’t leave the car. Not many other escape routes since the rockers are packed with foam forward of it.

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Inside or out. Skip the poison. Look for "walk the plank traps" on YouTube. Those are cool and entertaining.

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Adopt a cat; seems to work for me.

An outdoor cat is great fun, although it may be too cold in your area.

I put out birdseed, when they're bored, lol. Like today.

I need to set up a camera, but I'm sure I'd violate some law.

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That hole goes into the rocker panel, and through that he could get out through the square cutout in the frame rail near the fuel tank, it may be his hiding place it didn’t leave the car. Not many other escape routes since the rockers are packed with foam forward of it.
Is this hole on either side of the car on the rear? I haven't taken this off before so IDK where it's at.

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It is on both sides of the car, it's close to the wheel housing. Looking thru the speaker hole and look down, there it is.

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How many years have I been saying everyone should toss the sound deadener from that area?
Speaking of sound deadener!

Now that I'll be tossing almost everything, any recommendations to replace it in that area or just forget about it? I really haven't checked it out under the carpet, didn't look bad so I'm not sure if I should just clean it up or replace the deadener there too.

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Speaking of sound deadener!

Now that I'll be tossing almost everything, any recommendations to replace it in that area or just forget about it? I really haven't checked it out under the carpet, didn't look bad so I'm not sure if I should just clean it up or replace the deadener there too.

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Leave it out, it makes zero difference to human ears. If you put anything back, don’t put it inside, just use sound deadening mat on the outer shell.

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Is this hole on either side of the car on the rear? I haven't taken this off before so IDK where it's at.
Yes, those holes are there for the moonroof drain tubes to pass through

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Yes, those holes are there for the moonroof drain tubes to pass through
So since mine has the moonroof option, these holes will be populated with drain tubes. Is that safe for me to presume?

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Spent about 4 hours, a roll of paper towels and a bleach/water mix to clean things up today. Actually doesn't smell too bad at all!

Lesson learned with this fiasco, if it's going to sit for any kind of time at all, I'm leaving traps in and around it.

I'll start cleaning up the carpet and seats later this week, weather is going to suck for the first part of the week.

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Joe, I'd add some stereo wiring while it's empty like that.

Any chance you have a Cat?
Putting some food in there while the interior is out, and letting it hang out there for a while will put cat pheromones in there, and those deter mice.

Cat Pheromones, not Cat Pee, lol.

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No cat, just an old dog!

Thanks!

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Caught 2 more today, one in and one outside the car. Traps are working great!

But it looks like there's been some activity in there since I cleaned it Saturday, found some droppings and a stain that I know I cleaned. Not sure if it's the ones that I found today.

Any idea how long I should wait until I can start putting this thing back together? I don't want to be wasting my time for nothing, I can wait it out. Give it time until there's no longer any signs of activity???

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You are probably fighting smells that are attracting them; I'd recommend washing it out with something ammonia based, to kill any pheromones they've left behind.

You're probably going to also have to move to the broader area, and put out poison around your house, and see what their food source is and eliminate it.

If you have dogs, they won't care about mice at all. The mice are probably eating dog food.

Tighten up on food supplies; feeding them inside is an option, but mice will follow the food in most cases.

I tend to use natural means; cats and snakes.

Go for a hike and find a couple of blacksnakes you can bring home; they'll eat several mice a day.

Blacksnakes also run off poisonous snakes.

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those holes are there for the moonroof drain tubes to pass through
Matt,

If I poured something into one of those holes, will it all drain out? I know nothing about them and thinking of giving it another cleaning. I'm thinking of going with Greg's suggestion of using ammonia and thought of giving that area a treatment. I'm not talking a lot and hopefully that might keep them out of there.

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Yes, there are arrowhead shaped drain stampings on the bottom of the rocker panels that water will drain out of. They’re small holes though, not designed for a huge amount of flow so you’ll end up with a pool in them for a period, and if there’s any crap in there there’s a chance it’ll clog the holes before it fully drains out.

Don’t use anything corrosive to paint or metal

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If you use ammonia based cleaner, or 409, wash it out carefully, thru the drain holes.

Coth are corrosive, but ammonia or 409 will break up the pheromones; I use it for killing cat pee markings, so other cat's don't feel the need to mark stuff around the house. (Fucking cats...)

My mom really must have hated me to leave me her cat.

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"Time to blast off and nuke the site from orbit"(approximate fitting famous line).

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