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Rear lights wiring

Hi folks,
I'm working through my 95 T-bird and some point the lights have been converted to UK spec.... eg the reverse lights have been changed to indicators etc.....
Can someone send me a wiring diagram for the rear lights and possibly a video of the right light sequence (sides, tail and flasher ) ?

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-08-2019, 03:35 AM
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These are from a 91 T-bird. I hope they are useful to you.
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That didn't go like planned
For some reason the forum app uploads the previous files every time I drop new ones in. I can't even delete the previous posts.
I'll try again later.
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OK, last attempt. I see you only need 90-1 and 90-2.
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You'll have to sort them yourself. Now I only hope my previous posts won't get deleted with delay after all.

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Thanks for the diagrams😁
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Can anyone send me a video clip of the light sequence ??

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Can anyone send me a video clip of the light sequence ??

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What light sequence?

Trunk lights are tail light only; outer is all that blinks.

And of course the center high mount stop light (CHMSL) lights up on brakes.

So it's off, outside and CHMSL lit for brake, CHMSL and non-flashing for brake with the flashing side for turn signal; turn on parking or head lights, center and both outside light up as tail lights, and the outer and CHMSL do just as if you didn't have the parking/head lights on, save the "off" is back to the parking lights. Center stays the same.

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Maybe this is what you're looking for:







Red '96 Cougar XR-7 240k mi. '02 4R70W, PST DS : '03 PI engine, 04 maf, 24lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, '02 4r70w + Jmod, DirtyD0g TC + cooler + 3/8" lines, 255 walbro fp. Alpine system.
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Maybe this is what you're looking for:
It might be; but the factory lights don't do that on the MN12s.

Shucks, the Cougar reflectors don't light up at all!

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I'm working on making the spare tbird set I've got do that.

I was being funny, with the sequence part from above.

Red '96 Cougar XR-7 240k mi. '02 4R70W, PST DS : '03 PI engine, 04 maf, 24lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, '02 4r70w + Jmod, DirtyD0g TC + cooler + 3/8" lines, 255 walbro fp. Alpine system.
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Black '97 Tbird Limited Edition, '02 4R70W, 255 walbro, PST DS, PBR Brakes&SS lines, Toicko Blues & Springs, GrogTune.


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Well the tail lights are working but, i can't figure out why they are not flashing when on turns or hazards. Anyone offer some advice ??
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Listen for the click of the Flasher Module.

No click, no worky.

Search is your friend; it took 10 seconds. Google "flasher module site tccoa.com"

https://forums.tccoa.com/6-general-t...ule-where.html

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Yep, i know the flasher relay........ the relay is working as the fronts are working.
Basically I've traced the loom into the trunk where it goes into the multi plug. I have checked the earth also in that area.
There is no power going to the bulb holders. So I ask is there any fuse links on route that good have gone ? If both the manuals made for the Tbird had the correct sodding diagrams i would trace the loom entirely..
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At this point, I'd pull out the MFS and check the wires there.

Brakes and lights go thru it, and it can kill them selectively.

Red '96 Cougar XR-7 240k mi. '02 4R70W, PST DS : '03 PI engine, 04 maf, 24lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, '02 4r70w + Jmod, DirtyD0g TC + cooler + 3/8" lines, 255 walbro fp. Alpine system.
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\If both the manuals made for the Tbird had the correct sodding diagrams i would trace the loom entirely..
If by "both the manuals" you mean the Chilton's and the Haynes ... no, they don't.

What you NEED to tackle this is the Electrical Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual - the EVTM - from Ford; reprinted by Helm Inc.

For a 1995 - Let me see if I have the PDFs on my machine.

Check the attached PDFs; they're the Ford official wiring diagrams for a 1994 MN12 (TBird or Cougar). They are numbered with the page numbers; but they ARE the official wiring diagrams.


Edit: Also, check the wiring looms down the driver's side. I had a yellow wire burn out (!!!!) on my 1991; seems like it's a common failure on these.


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Thank you both. Ive took the steering column shrouds off and found 4 wires cut and scotch blocks on several others... soldering iron out tomorrow, put all the wires back to how they should be and see what happens.
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All now working correctly.

Thanks for the help
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All now working correctly.

Thanks for the help
Great!

Was it the cut wires at the steering column?

I'm now interested in where the problem was.

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Yep it was the cut wires. The wires were cut to meet UK vehicle light standards. The government has strange views on brake/direction/tail lights etc...... all pointless as with most new cars Audi VW etc the direction lights/brake lights are so small you can't tell where they are going unless its dark !!
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