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Fuel Efficiency vs. Cost Effeciency.

So yeah i drive a 97 T-Bird with a V8 in it right... so i might be one of those people that refuses to give up their big gas hogging cars no matter what the price of gas costs... or i might not be. I have been looking around for a smaller 4cyl car (ie Focus, Escort, Sentra, Carolla etc.) Well turns out that any nice ones that i would be caught drving in happen to be about $6k and up... im sorry but i dont have that kind of money... so heres my point. Why WOULD i take out a loan for $6K on a car that maybe only gets 10 more mpg's when my car has been totally paid off since the day i bought it. I really dont like the way gas prices are looking and they WILL get worse; but nothing is going to be done about it and i wont be making any more money doing the same job im doing, so why should i even care? no one else does. I just thought of this because its not cost effecient for a working person who lives paycheck to paycheck as it is to go out and get a loan for a more gas friendly vehicle. If i go into anymore details this rant will become strictily political. Oh well se ya next earth day ill still be killing the environment just like all of my blue collar brethren.

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Now that I got my car running relatively efficiently, I think I am going to keep it as my dd for a while. I was also considering a newer car, but thought about the price of the loan and everything... and in the short term view it would be a bad investment for me. In the long run, it would probably be wise. I don't drive a whole lot, but I do go through a tank every week. I am happy with the car for now, but we'll see when gas hits 5 bucks a gallon.

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i'm keeping mine as dd for now and will become a weekend car later, and my next dd will be a V8 truck. i'm not caving to this political and environmental bs.

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all you need is some 4.56 gearing, and voila! drops vehicle weight 1000 lbs!....just dont get on the highway...lol
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Well I was driving a 72 Olds 442 daily, gas milage wasn't great (like 13-15mpg) with a 3 speed auto and 3.73 gears, I saved up about a grand and bought my 91 Thunderbird, yea its not as great as a new car, but it gets about 20-23mpg, and I got it for $650 and the car is in great shape. Point of my story is, save some cash and buy a mid 90s civic, sentra, jetta, ect, their cheap, their reliable, and they get good gas milage
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i dont know about the prices of those vehicles near you but even a rusted out/riced out Honda will bring at least $2500. I dont plan on giving up my Thunderbird ever, i was just out to see if there was a way to save money on gas by buying another car.

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A lot depends on how many miles you drive each month. Then it's simple math. My mom is in the same boat with her Grand Marquis. It's getting a solid 26 mpg, but she's like you, it isn't cost effective to buy a $5000 car to only get 10 mpg better fuel economy.

My $2000 Aspire payed for itself within 9 months. But I also drive 110 miles a day.

I'm glad I got mine when I did because **it boxes that were going for $500 - $1000 are now pulling in over $3000.

In Aug 05, I paid retail for my Aspire, $2000 with 110K miles. I now have 186K miles on it and retail is.... $2200 (and that is factoring in a $200 mileage hit).

Can't beat owning a car that is actually going UP in value, while you drive the piss out of it!!

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Tell me about it....when I had my 2001 Ford Focus, which I bought BRAND NEW...it dropped in value by about 100 bucks a month, and when I got rid of it, low blue book was 2500 bucks...in 2004. Now look at what they go for
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Driving 110 miles a day in an Aspire sounds like an uncomfortable nightmare... I hope the mileage is worth the sacrifice.

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Driving 110 miles a day in an Aspire sounds like an uncomfortable nightmare... I hope the mileage is worth the sacrifice.
Actually, it really isn't that bad of a ride. I'm short (5' 2") so I actually fit in rather well..... (excluding the fact I'm also "round" ). I drove it to CO, 20 hours straight and felt fine when I got there. Now for a “big guy” it would probably be a completely different matter.

I can cruise with traffic at 70 to 80 mph with no problem at all, with the 5 speed it can get to speed in an acceptable time (after about 45/50 mph the lack of hp/tq really comes into play). With no power steering, the steering is real tight and gives great road feel (as does the REAL short wheelbase). A/C works great (at the expense of about 4 mpg!!), as does the aftermarket stereo/speakers/amp.

Granted, it's not the LSC, but all in all, for its intended purpose, it is one of the best cars I've ever owned.

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I use a Ford Taurus with a Vulcan 3.0L to go to work, 50 Miles each way. I have it tuned to do fuel economy, I get an extra trip out of a tank that way.

I bought my Wife a Mazda5 since we needed to replace our Villager. Gas prices were a concern for me when I bought, but it wasn't the top concern. We get 10MPGs more out of the 5, which is nice but it is smaller then the Villager with no towing capabilties at all.

One thing to keep in mind, sometimes the parts for the smaller cars can be more money then the bigger, more established models. Thunderbird parts are cheap compaired to the Probe I used to have. Your fuel savings are gone if you have to pay double or triple the price for parts.

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