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The future of racing cars

With a lot of cars turning to hybrid technology, what will come of the future for cars? How is an electric car built to be speedy? Larger capacitors? With the increase in fuel price (or devaluation of the dollar if you will) where do you see the future of auto-racing going?

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Auto racing will continue to be like it is now. None of the major forms of racing are using modern engines. All NASCAR engines are push rod engines. NHRA & IHRA pro classes all use specially built engines.

Fans want to see speed and are not interested in hybrid vehicles. I guarantee you will never see a tree hugger at an auto racing event.
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NASCAR and racing teams has sooo much money from sponsors and fans I think they can afford the race gas every race weekend.

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and hybrids and there supposed savings are a farse. even at the 4 bucks a gallon im spending 30 k on POS CAR THAT HAS A LIFE SPAN OF 5-6 YEARS, then have to buy a 6 k battery to make it operational again, no way

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All I'm saying is there aren't going to be very many cool cars to build upon. My future sons first car won't get to have the joys of an awesome MN12 bird, or even a rear wheel drive V8 car. By that time it's going to be "I'm getting a 07 Prius, gonna supercharge it with duracell caps and high flow resistors" or whatever it takes to make an electric car faster.

The days of suping up a street car powered by gasoline will eventually be over, and I'm wondering what it will be like.

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electric/hybrid cars are a fad, they are totally impractical, expensive and wont really help the global warming fad. in terms of racing, if there wasnt any exhaust sound at tracks all you would hear is the hillbillies in the stands

and i'll pass on the tesla, i'd rather spend money at the pump every 2-300 miles than have my electric bill skyrocket every 60 miles.

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The only major change I see in racing coming up can be summed up in one word:

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I cant really see electric/hybrid's TAKING racing over, but I'm sure there will be divisions for them. Have you ever seen the vid of that electric motorcycle that runs 7's or 8's in the 1/4? Theres definatly speed to be had out of them, but I just dont see them taking over.

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Formula 1 is going hybrid next year...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/23/f...e-goes-hybird/

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Formula 1 is going hybrid next year...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/23/f...e-goes-hybird/
"Push to pass" button, WTF, F1 is turning into no more that an arcade game. I was actually suprised they took away the T/C.

I have a push to pass button in my car too, its the pedal on the right!
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"Push to pass" button, WTF, F1 is turning into no more that an arcade game. I was actually suprised they took away the T/C.
Push to pass has been in A1GP. Often is boils down to who can get to the front with the most "pushes" left. You have to balance using them to get to the front and saving them for when you get there. Better racing? Maybe. Better entertainment? I think so.




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Formula 1 is going hybrid next year...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/23/f...e-goes-hybird/

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Considering the fact that nearly all hybrid vehicles are advertized as being good for the environment, I would assume that hybrid vehicles would not have a huge following among the gearheads who are under the influence of exhaust fumes (Exhaust Partisans Anonymous - EPA). I stick my tongue out every time a hybrid drives by.

Honestly, I think there's a special element to racing that most fans enjoy: The noises, the smells, the thunder of the engines. Internal Combustion engines produce an atmosphere of anticipation and excitement when pushed to their limits and opened up. Yes, electric vehicles can be fast. Just look at the Tesla or "Killacycle" on dragtimes.com. The downside to these vehicles, though, is that they're quite and devoid of any indication that a motor is running except for the fact that the car is moving. There's something great about hearing an engine and knowing that someone is driving it like they stole it. I can sit in my house at night and hear something on the highway bookin' it simply because IC engines make noise. I never want to live in a society where everyone is driving vehicles that make no sounds. The thought makes me shudder.

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I think some people should do some research before making statements...

http://www.nedra.com/
http://www.roadtripamerica.com/wheels/flc.htm
http://www.greenpower.co.uk/about/
http://www.7gen.com/website-categori...vehicle-racing
http://www.formulazero.nl/
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I would assume that hybrid vehicles would not have a huge following among the gearheads
Actually there is a fair amount of motor heads/geeks that are seriously tweaking the current hybrids. They have cracked the proprietary code, rewritten it and continue to “play”. It’s just that instead of turning a wrench, they type on a computer. No different than a dyno tune. Being a gear head is not mutually exclusive to being a tree hugger (just not the "loonie" tree huggers.)

Someone somewhere will always be racing something; which often leads to the development and marketing of new technologies.

And everyone knows (or hopefully knows) that an electric engine will flog an internal combustion any day of the week in torque and efficiency. The electric motor is not the issue, the major problem is the storage of the electricity to operate said electric motor. If someone could develop a $1000 “battery” that is the size of a gas tank, weights 100 lbs, stores enough power for 500 miles, and take 5 minutes to charge/replace, I think electric cars would be on the road overnight.

As for hybrids.... sales of the Prius were up 67%....

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Concerning battery-powered vehicles: They are a problem, in that the battery is also the power source. No matter how much gas is in the tank, you still get 100% of the power out of a gasoline engine. Battery-powered vehicles? You lose power from the moment you switch the engine 'on'.

Personally? I want more diesels on the market. I have a customer with a 5-speed Volkswagon TDI Beetle, with the Bully Dog tuner, and related parts....81 mpg, with cruise control activated, and a/c turned off.
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The nice thing, of course mentioned on the clip, is the zero maintenance, other than tires. If all you have to do is replace tires, no brakes, no oil changes, basically maintenance free, I know some women that would love that car! It'd be better for in-town, I'd hate to see driving cross-country. I wonder if you'd have to use one of those plug-in solar panels when you drive. Oh well. It looks cool. As long as it's not one of those cheap pieces of crap I see rich people driving around town that looks like an enclosed golf cart and costs $27000, I can handle that.

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