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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 05-23-2008, 06:51 AM Thread Starter
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97 F150 4.2L vs. 97 T'bird/Mustang 3.8L

A buddy of mine was given a nice '97 F-150 for free. The problem is the harmonic balancer sheared off flush with the timing chain cover.

I've been "elected" to do the repair...

In exchange for welding/fabrication labor, so it’s all cool

We’re hoping we can pop the front seal out, split the remainder of the balancer and pull it out. If not, I’ll have to pop the cover off.

I have the OEM manuals for all the 97 cars on CD, but nothing for the truck lines.

The main question I have is about the Camshaft Synchronizer . Do you really need the special tool to install it, or can you just make sure you align everything up the same way it came out? I mean, it looks like a distributor and as long as you make sure the shaft doesn’t turn before you put it back in, shouldn’t it be aligned correctly?

My other question is: are the similarities between the cars and trucks close enough that the R&R procedures are pretty much interchangeable?

Anyway, any hits or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, and the repair quote from the Ford dealership: $5,400 (they said the crankshaft had to be replace because the bolt sheared off in the end)....

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Since there was so much interest....

Total repair: <$150!!!
$55 for the tow
$41 for the new balancer shipped (http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/se...l&N=4294967266)
$10 balancer bolt
$6 front seal

We were able to remove the front seal, slide the balancer remains off, and the bolt remains came out with just fingers.

So basically he got a nice red, '97 F150 for a couple hundred dollars.

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what happened with the cam sensor?

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what happened with the cam sensor?
We didn't have to pull the timing chain cover, so nothing got touched.

I never did find out if you have to use the special tool to align it.

The only thing that sucked is that I didn't have hardly any labor, so now I'll have to pay him for any fabrication/welding.

With a good wash/wax/detail the truck will look brand new!!!

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You only need a special tool if you don't mark both the housing and magnet in relation to the timing cover. If anything gets moved without being marked, you need to tool to get everything back where it needs to be.

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