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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 06-23-2008, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
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Red face Time for a new car

Good and bad I guess. We bought my 1994 tbird wiht 80k on it 3 years ago. It was a graduation gift and we paid 1600 for it. The paint was fading/oxidized when we bought it but has since gotten worse.

The transmission developed a shudder at 90k.
I replaced the thermostat at 127k
Replaced Fuel Pump/Filter and Strainer at 135k. Since then the car idles low until warmed up. Does anyone know a fix to this?
AC doesn't really blow cold anymore, my dad has put cans of whatever in it nearly every summer.
At 137k, the transmission occasionally hangs on gears.

So, I'm looking for a new car. I may take a job 40-50 miles one way so i need something better on gas.

I also have to get it financed so 2002 and newer only, and I don't want to go much over $8,000

Option #1
2002+ Dodge Neon
My least favorite option. Don't really like the look of these cars. The base models look really girly to me. Comes with a 2.0 liter (most likely).
24mpg (City)
31mpg (highway)
27 (combined)

Option #2
2002+ Chevy Cavalier. Really Indifferent about these cars. I'm unsure of styling and don't know that this is my favorite choice
2.2 Liter
24 mpg (City)
33 mpg (Highway)
27 mpg (combined)

Option #3
2002+ Nissan Sentra. Prolly one of my favorite options. Nissans are supposed to be really reliable. Maybe a little stretch on my pocket.
1.8 liter
27 mpg (city)
35 mpg (highway)
31 mpg (combined)

Option #4
2002+ Ford Focus. Another good option, I like the roominess these have for a small car. I hear they have electric problems though.
2.0 liter
28 mpg (City)
36 mpg (Highway)
31 mpg (Combined)

Option #5
2002+ Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Sebring. I can get these prolly just as cheap as the other cars. They are bigger inside then most, less economical.
2.7 liter
20 mpg (City)
28 mpg (Highway)
23 mpg (Combined)

Option 3-5 are prolly my preferred. Any suggestions? Civic/Corolla with decent mileage is probably out of my price range.
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Yeah, I would and if I could afford to buy a new car that would probably be on the top of my list. But since I can't and Honda's have a significantly higher resale value it doesn't make sense to buy one.
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those are fun as hell to drive too.. if you get the sport model.. the Se-R i think it is they look great too

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Focus you bastards... Cause I said so... can be just as much fun as that sentra holmes!

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I've actually heard the cavalier has the best engine/transmission as far as reliability is concerned as any. I'm really leaning towards focus just because they overall seem bigger inside.
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Focus, American, Ford need we say more...
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I would recommend the Sentra or the Focus. The Sentra will probably hold it's value longer, but also probably be the more expensive. But the Focus is considered a very reliable, nice car, so either one is probably a good bet.

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focus.....coming from a dealer these things hardly have major problems. we bought my wifes new in 04, and no problems yet. my sister in law just bought an 07 as well. no problems to date, though it's only been a few months.

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Thanks for the input guys.
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Hah, ford's been pretty good to me. Not so much some of my family members though. Everyone I know who bought a taurus had the engine die.
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stay away from the Chrysler stuff. Not a good engine. watch how many blow smoke out the tail pipes. Engines are just crap (from what i've seen). Cavaliers are okay, but go for something a little sportier, aim for the Sunfire. Nissan's are nice too. Check out the Mitsubishi's. I've loved both of my mitsu's.

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Thought we settled this question, to a finality of a Focus!

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I say none of the above. Forget financing, keep cash in your pocket, and go find yourself an 80s diesel VW and get 50mpg and run it for 500K miles. I will never understand the mentality of taking on a car payment, which also means a much larger insurance payment, just to save some money on maintenance or gas.

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Why not just keep the bird and make it dependable.Think about it.All the money you'll spend in a car payment can be used montly to make the car that much more dependable.And these cars are not bad on gas for what they are.I get 22-25 mpg highway on mine depending on driving habits and about 17-19 city.Keep the bird.If it's paid off you're techniqly doing better than having a car payment.

The tranmission shutter is probley a converter.I have one (10k mile unit.) I'd let go for cheap if interested.

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Why not just keep the bird and make it dependable.Think about it.All the money you'll spend in a car payment can be used montly to make the car that much more dependable.And these cars are not bad on gas for what they are.I get 22-25 mpg highway on mine depending on driving habits and about 17-19 city.Keep the bird.If it's paid off you're techniqly doing better than having a car payment.

The tranmission shutter is probley a converter.I have one (10k mile unit.) I'd let go for cheap if interested.
The car is getting to a nickel and diming point. Shudder I can live with, hanging on gears when it should have shifted I can't. I don't know if something in the transmission is going or what, but I don't think paying $$$ is worth it when my car is only worth $$$.

I don't have the means myself to do a torque converter. Which is more money that I don't think is worth it since all my car is worth is that its the first car I've owned.

I could save money and not get a car loan, but I don't think I'm overreaching by trying to buy an 11-12k car when I'm looking at cars <8k. I guess I'd rather have a monthly payment then take the chance of sitting on the roadside.
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Why not just keep the bird and make it dependable.Think about it.All the money you'll spend in a car payment can be used montly to make the car that much more dependable.And these cars are not bad on gas for what they are.I get 22-25 mpg highway on mine depending on driving habits and about 17-19 city.Keep the bird.If it's paid off you're techniqly doing better than having a car payment.

The tranmission shutter is probley a converter.I have one (10k mile unit.) I'd let go for cheap if interested.
+33 Would you rather be nickel and dimed to death or hit in the face regularly with a nice fat car payment on a depreciating compact pile.

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The car is getting to a nickel and diming point. Shudder I can live with, hanging on gears when it should have shifted I can't. I don't know if something in the transmission is going or what, but I don't think paying $$$ is worth it when my car is only worth $$$.

I don't have the means myself to do a torque converter. Which is more money that I don't think is worth it since all my car is worth is that its the first car I've owned.

I could save money and not get a car loan, but I don't think I'm overreaching by trying to buy an 11-12k car when I'm looking at cars <8k. I guess I'd rather have a monthly payment then take the chance of sitting on the roadside.
Been there, done that, got the tshirt and car payment to prove it. If I had to do it over again, I'd have just stuck with the bird and the bronco ii I was driving instead of having 6 years worth of monthly payments. That's your call though.

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It would take a few months to get you bird up to spec, especially when your paying for labor, but think about it....if your payment is 250/mo for 48 mo (average); you're paying out 12,000. Now, to get that payment, you'd have to have average or better credit and finance around 10,000 dollars. If you put 2K in the bird, how good would it be? Also, how much car are you really getting 02 or newer for 10-12K???

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Hmm, the more and more I think about it. I think it would probably better to buy a car flat out.

I just saw a cougar today 1990 with 57k on it for 1900. By the time I called it was sold.
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Hmm, the more and more I think about it. I think it would probably better to buy a car flat out.

I just saw a cougar today 1990 with 57k on it for 1900. By the time I called it was sold.
That's a very good idea. I would buy a car that you want, and the newest/ best shape you can afford. Even if it only has 57K on it, that old cougar probably has some parts that have/are worn out simply because of its age. I'm not by any means knocking older cars, but if you're wanting something reliable that's not going to nickel and dime you, and newer car is probably a better bet. That being said, my brother bought a 89 XR7 last month that is in really nice shape for an 89. It will be more of a project car though.

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If only it could be the car I want. I'd be driving an Enzo right now.
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are you sure your mpg figures are right? my focus is an 06 and it has never gotten 36mpg. The bset I think I have ever done is 34, mostly between 30-32. I know the 07+'s have a different tune to get better gas mileage, but thats still minute.

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best bang for buck and killer good gas milage, panther chassis cars, and they can be had cheap. ie crown vic , towncar, marquis, the vic and marquis are cheaper than the towns and you can get a 2004 or newer with around 70 rounds for less than 8g . average mpg onthe highway is around 400ish out of a tank. around town around 300 ish. and they run forever, i know of livery cars that 400+ miles on them, with orginal drivetrains, they still arent worth much , but youll have a better car than a throw away civic or focus or neon, i agree on staying away from anything gm or chrysler on that level too -justin

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thats only 20mpg if you do 400 to a tank. then 15mpg if you do 300ish. I think he's going to want atleast 30 mpg. I understand you're saying they are cheaper and are built better. But I think he's aiming for the econoclass

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