Southern hospitality IS a real thing. You don't need tow trucks in Texas if you go off the road. Wait a little bit and two guys in a pickup will come by soon with a tow rope and get you out. They live for this.
This is promising. You don't see much of that here in SoCal. Then again, there isn't much "off the road" over here in SoCal either unless you live up the mountains or in the desert. And then, you would have people in a pickup come help you out with a rope.
You'll eat better than you have anywhere else in the country. People really are genuinely friendly overall. Yes, some people come off as douches over the web, but don't worry about that. There are douches everywhere, they're always going to show up in groups.
What do you mean, "you'll eat better than you have anywhere else in the country"? Like, I know TX is big on steak and whatnot, but what do you really
Taxes are MUCH better in Texas.
This is where I'm concerned at. In that FB group I'm on I mentioned in my OP, people keep on raving about there being no income tax and low vehicle registration fees. However, when they mention property taxes, they seem to be at 2.2% (average) and that percentage rate changes from county to county. Basically, it comes down to whatever I'm saving on vehicle registration and other taxes here in CA I'd be spending it on property taxes. Furthermore, since TX doesn't have anything similar to CA's Prop 13, the dollar amount of the property tax bill will fluctuate yearly as the property's value is reassessed yearly. Here in CA, because of Prop 13, my tax bill remains tied to the value of my house as to when I bought (or refinanced) my house. So even if my house is valued at $350k but I bought it at $185k, I'm only paying property taxes on $185k and not $350k. That to me is my top two reasons for not leaving CA.
Freedoms are much better if you happen to be a gun owner/enthusiast. The weather is hotter than CA, but everywhere is Air Conditioned.
I don't care either way about 2A freedoms. I think that firearms are cool, but not a necessity or enthusiast about them.
Not 100% sure where Redfin is, but Houston is flat as a pancake, as is Dallas/Ft Worth. Austin is the hilly area, I think there's mountains in the Panhandle/north central part of Texas but not 100% sure. If you need mountains, Colorado is right there.
isn't a city, it's a website.
Define "mountains" for TX. The nearest mountain to me you go up 1-1/4 mile in elevation in under 20 miles of road.
Colorado is a state I'd consider, except it snows. I don't want a snow state, mainly because of rust. I don't want to deal with anything that living in a snow state requires.
Portions of Texas are hilly; the foothills of the Ozarks head through Arkansas to Texas.
Shucks, portions of East Texas are a bit hilly; not to Arkansas levels, but then, depending on WHERE in Texas, Arkansas hills may be just 3 or 4 hours away. (Or less ... it gets hilly going northeast from Texarkana - a dual city, used to be two cities, Texarkana TX and Texarkana AR, but is now one city as it's consolidating!)
Yes, that's one of the areas that I've seen pop up in the FB group I'm a member of. Kinda weird to have a single city on two different states.
You can't "pre-approve" an area you're moving into; Do it, and THEN find good people.
Most people are worth a fuck, but the noise from the douchebags drowns it out online.
I'd definitely check it out first before actually moving. Wife and I are thinking mid to late summer.
We have family out in San Antonio. It helps to have people you know where you want to go. Most of my family is still in California though.
This. I have no one out there. Well, a couple of e-friends and potentially one family friend who I haven't seen in almost 20 years....
You cant beat the weather in Ca. TX is Hot as fuck. That thing about no mountains really weirded me out when I went to visit … I live in the valley surrounded by mountains - so it was a huge shock to me. But like you said .. drive 30 minutes Southwest and im in Santa Cruz beach. Drive about 4 hours north, and I can go to the snow in Lake Tahoe. Five hours south and im in Disneyland.
For me, a "long drive" to get fast food is like 10 minutes away. Over there, it might be an hour drive if you want something in the next town over.
That's what I'm seeing. Unless you live in one of the big metroplex areas such as DFW, Houston, and San Antonio, everything will be "out there".
The pay / job situation is a huge factor. Over there my fellow tradesmen make half of what I make - so they travel here to make the big money. But cost of living is lower in some cases. Its just that you get a lot more for what you pay for over there, if you can pay for it.
That is definitely a huge factor I touched on up above on this post. I work in IT and am trying to get into project management (some experience, but "not enough") and I'm finding wages for what I do everywhere from $45k/yr up to $85k/yr and I'm right in that range myself now here in CA. The argument I'm seeing frequently of "you get more for your money" may be true, but if I'm still paying roughly the same at the end of the day due to higher property taxes, is it really worth it from a financial perspective? Yea, I'd be paying just a small fraction in vehicle registration fees out in TX compared to what I pay for here in CA, but those property taxes are THOUSANDS of dollars more in TX than what I pay for here in CA. Here in CA, I only pay $2,200/yr in property taxes.
One thing I have heard ,if you’re coming from California leave your politics behind . They DO NOT like that here . Hear that all the time .
Yes, that is a common theme I quickly found out in that FB group I'm in.
I've lived in the Houston area all my life, so I can answer most questions about this particular part of TX.
I won't go into the various positive aspects of life here, because the OP reads more like a travel brochure. The thread seems rather pointless, as you're clearly enthralled with Cali life and want to stay put, and are essentially looking for excuses to NOT move to TX.
I'm not necessarily enthralled with life here in CA. I'm just looking at it from a financial perspective and I don't seem to have any net benefit.
1) Most people in any given part of TX won't take kindly to snobbery and yammering on about the superiority and glory of CA. We are generally hospitable, but that shit will get you snubbed and/or flamed jiffy quick. Word spreads quickly, too, and everyone in the neighborhood will know about you in short order — if it's a small town, everyone in the entire town will know about you in short order. In either case, you may find life less than excessively pleasant.
I keep my politics close to my chest. I have my opinions and views but I try not to enter conversation about it except with close friends and family. Even then, I limit my conversation. My conversation with politics is always at the ballot box!
2) TX is a RED state. You won't find life pleasant here if you decide to lecture us on politics or whine about same. Yes, it's true, and probably not exactly an eye-opener that we and a lot of other states don't particularly relish the idea of an influx of liberals — most will assume that if you're from CA, you're a liberal (you can call yourself a progressive or spin it however you like, it won't matter, you are the opposite of us and you will likely be alienated). If you're a self-absorbed, self-centered snowflake, you will HATE living in TX. If you don't like guns, you will absolutely HATE living in Texas, guaranteed.
Again, I don't speak politics. All I'll say is that I'm a "purple" and I'll leave it at that.
3) It can indeed get pretty damn hot and humid here (coastal areas at least). It may take a while for outsiders to acclimate and to learn not to fear (or at least learn how to deal with) hurricanes and flooding. It floods in south TX often, even sans hurricane, as we get lots and lots and lots of rain here. Of course, the farther north you go, the less you need worry about the big storms.
TX also has deserts, so you can stay really dry (and hot) if you want to.
I hate humidity. Probably because there's so little of it here in SoCal. There are maybe 30 days total throughout the year here in SoCal where the humidity is unbearable. If you have to live with it day in and day out, I'm not sure if I could deal. But like you said, we have to acclimate. How long would that take for me though? Only I'll find out.
Hurricanes and flooding. That's a whole different animal to deal with. I'm not sure what to even do there. And those are every few years.
Deserts. That's West TX such as El Paso area, right?
4) Not sure where you were thinking about in TX, or where your work would take you, but my area is chemical city. I live a hop and a skip from numerous major oil refineries and chemical plants. It's our industry, it's what we do. Other parts of TX, not so much — well, Dallas is a big oil town, of course. It can get odoriferous here at times, but nothing like it was decades ago. There's still always the potential for explosions and/or leaks or other accidents which can force mass evacuation. That doesn't happen often. The pollution isn't really that bad since the industry was made to clean up its act decades ago, and it's not usually very smoggy in Houston. There's a much worse smog problem in certain parts of CA.
I'm thinking the DFW area of TX, if we end up going. Apparently from that FB group I'm a member of, so are like 75% of the other California "refugees" are also thinking going there.
Those aren't mountains. Those are cute little hills!
I want mountains to do some canyon carving in the T-Bird!
This is the front of Highway 243. I live literally 5 minutes from the bottom of this where the video starts off at.
This is Highway 18 and 330 which take you into Big Bear. The bottom of the mountain is just 15min from where I live.
This is GMR. This is NOT
a friendly one. Many have eaten shit here, myself included. It's where I totaled my RX-8 back in 2006. The East side of this is 30min from where I live. The West side of GMR is the harder part where people eat it here.